Pros & Cons of Forced Updates in Windows 10

Joe Keeley 24-06-2015

Updates will change in Windows 10. Right now you can pick and choose. The final version of Windows 10 Home will force every update onto you Windows 10 Upgrade - Free Doesn't Mean It Won't Cost Anything There's a catch to the free Windows 10 upgrade. Microsoft understands its audience all too well; they are more likely to pay for the freedom of control, rather than for extra features. Read More , though the behavior will vary in other editions.


This might sound good because everyone will automatically get the latest security updates, but there have been instances in the past where system updates caused more harm When Windows Update Fails, This Is How You Fix It Did a Windows Update crash your system? Here's a quick list of troubleshooting steps that will help you restore Windows to a functional state. Read More than good. Let’s take a look at the pros and cons of not being able to turn Windows Update Windows Update: Everything You Need to Know Is Windows Update enabled on your PC? Windows Update protects you from security vulnerabilities by keeping Windows, Internet Explorer, and Microsoft Office up-to-date with the latest security patches and bug fixes. Read More off.

Please be sure to head into the comments section afterwards to let us know what you think of this. Is it a concern or do the positives outweigh the potential negatives?

Updates in Windows 10

In current versions of Windows, users have total control over how they want their systems to update Fix Windows Update & Make It Less Annoying Without Compromising Security Windows Update can be a nuisance. Here is how you can protect yourself from its annoyances without compromising security. Read More . You can have your system scan for updates automatically and install them straight away or when you choose, or you can manually look for updates periodically. Alternatively, you can turn the function off completely and never update your system.

Whatever version of Windows you currently own, those are the options you have. But with Windows 10, that flexibility in choice will change. Depending on which version of Windows 10 you run, you’ll be on a particular service branch which will dictate how updates are handled.

Windows 10 PC Settings Windows Update


For Windows 10 Home users, as well as people who upgrade to Windows 10 for free, all updates–which includes security patches, bug fixes and new features–will all be installed automatically. There won’t be a choice to opt out of them or to delay their download. They’ll either be installed automatically or on the next manual system reboot How To Avoid An Unnecessary Windows Reboot Or Shutdown "Have you tried turning it off and on again?" This is probably the most helpful and least welcome advice ever. We explore when and how you can avoid a Windows restart. Read More . This is what Microsoft is calling the Current Branch (CB).

Those running Pro (unless it’s an upgrade from Windows 7 or 8 Pro, in which case CB is the only option), Enterprise, or Education will follow the same requirements, but they’ll be able to customize when particular updates are applied, like how Windows Update works at the moment. However, the updates will not be able to be deferred forever. There’s also the Long Term Servicing Branch, only for those running Enterprise in bulk, which offers a flexible installation policy and only forces security updates.

Pro: Up-to-date Security

Windows is still the most popular operating system in the world and that makes it a prime target for development of viruses and malicious attacks A Look at Some of the Worst Computer Viruses in History Read More . No operating system will ever be one hundred percent secure and there will always be those who try and exploit the vulnerabilities. While following best security practices, like having a firewall and anti-virus software, adds a vital layer of protection, an unstable operating system can lead to disastrous consequences.



For example, past Windows vulnerabilities have resulted in some attackers being able to remotely execute codes on a system in order to install programs, view data, create accounts with full permissions, and more. Of course, these types of incidents are considered critical level and Microsoft release patches for them as soon as possible. Providing Windows Update isn’t disabled on a current system, this is how it works at present.

Continuing this practice, along with taking it one step further to ensure that critical updates can’t be dismissed, is excellent news. Having unsecure systems out there is bad for Microsoft and the end user, and it’s vital that any known flaws are patched up as soon as possible. This will mean that attacks can be shut down quicker and hopefully less users will end up having their systems compromised.

Con: Botched Updates

While the majority of updates do go successfully, it has been known for some of them to do more harm than good. Past problems vary from the minor to the major: input lag on some games, broken playback on specific video file types and even a full-on blue screen of death Windows 8 Crashing? How to Easily Troubleshoot Blue Screen & Other Issues Windows 8 isn't perfect. That said, most blue screens and application crashes aren't Windows' fault. Our tips will help you identify exactly what's wrong with your PC and fix it. Read More . While the problems were acknowledged by Microsoft and resolved, it’s an inconvenience that users shouldn’t have to go through. If Windows 10 will force updates on everyone, can we be sure that they will always be stable?



Come Windows 10, updates will first be processed by a group of Windows Insiders. They will test the updates to make sure they’re decent, before they’re then rolled out onto all Home computers. It’s up to that group to become the guinea pigs, until the updates are then rolled out to Enterprise users. Theoretically, that first round of checks should remove any problems, but things don’t always work that smoothly in practice.

While it’s true that the vast majority of current updates go by without a hitch, and we perhaps shouldn’t damn the process before we’ve even tried it out, it is slightly concerning. If an update turns out to be botching people’s systems, there’ll be no way for Home users to get out of it unless the update is recalled or patched quickly. Whereas on-the-ball users can currently read about a troublesome update and skip it, this won’t be a choice come Windows 10.

Pro: Unified Development

Development can be hard when there’s so many different operating versions to account for. It’s similar to the battle that web developers face when ensuring their sites work across all the different browsers. While a program can work smoothly on Windows 8, that doesn’t mean it’ll be the same on Windows 7 – and vice versa. Forcing updates will mean that all systems are running the same framework and it’ll make the life of a developer that bit easier.

This is great for end users too because it’ll mean there’s greater cross-compatibility, at least from an operating system point of view (hardware, drivers and all that jazz are a different ball game). With Microsoft’s mobile and Xbox platform joining the Windows 10 ecosystem Here's How Gaming Will Work With Windows 10 With Windows 10, Microsoft is bringing PC gaming and the Xbox One together in a big way. Find out what to expect once Windows 10 arrives. Read More , it means you’ll be able to do things like stream Xbox One games to your computer. All of this is made easier due to the fact that the framework is consistent across all the platforms. No longer will your Windows devices be separate.


Con: Reduced Flexibility

Windows 10 will be the last version of Microsoft’s operating system The Latest Windows 10 Version Won't Be the Last One What is the latest Windows 10 version? How long is it supported? And why did Microsoft switch to a service model? Answers within! Read More . Whereas in the past the launch of the latest version of Windows was a big event, consumers are now wired to expect their updates to be free, thanks to companies like Apple and Google. As such, the idea is that everyone will just be running Windows as a service Windows 10: The Dream Of A Cross-Device Operating System Is Becoming Reality & It's Free Microsoft is boldly stepping into the future with innovative software and hardware. Windows as a service and mobility of experience were the major keywords from the recent Windows 10 briefing. Most importantly, Windows 10 will... Read More . Think of an online site you use, like Facebook, which continues to evolve while still maintaining the same name and lacking version numbers. This is what Microsoft now see Windows as being like.


To an extent, users have flexibility over their flavor of Windows. There are some people who are still sticking with XP, despite official support for it having ended, simply because they prefer it over the subsequent operating systems. There’s people out there who don’t upgrade their operating systems purely because they’ve got used to what they know and it’ll be too much of a hassle to learn their way round a new system. With Windows 10, there won’t be any choice about what features you install or future aesthetic changes you approve. Everyone will have exactly the same thing, whether they like it or not.

Of course, it’s too early to say how big feature updates will be handled. Let’s say that Microsoft one day decides to overhaul the visual design of Windows 10–will we be able to stick with the ‘classic’ theme or will there be no choice in that either? And how can we know that Microsoft won’t force software on us that we don’t want, especially when Candy Crush Saga is being pre-installed on all systems Windows 10 Upgrade - Free Doesn't Mean It Won't Cost Anything There's a catch to the free Windows 10 upgrade. Microsoft understands its audience all too well; they are more likely to pay for the freedom of control, rather than for extra features. Read More . Flexibility is king and it’s being lost under this new updating method.

To Update or Not to Update?

Come Windows 10, which users can already opt into upgrading to How to Upgrade to Windows 10 via Windows Update Windows 10 is offered as a free upgrade to Windows 7 and Windows 8.1. When you're ready to upgrade, you can use Windows Update and keep all your installed programs and settings intact. Read More ready for July, that won’t be the question: you’ll have no choice. Those who want a bit more flexibility over their updates will have to move from Home to the more expensive Pro option. But should that be the case? Surely updating should be our choice?

Maybe not. Microsoft wants to keep all systems in sync and unified. Ensuring that everyone is running the same version of their operating system will make life easier for them and hopefully more secure for us.

What do you think of the fact that updates in Windows 10 will be forced? What positives and negatives do you see?

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  1. MustachedSquid
    April 29, 2019 at 12:17 pm

    Windows forces updates, people complain.
    Steam and other game launchers forces updates, no one cares

  2. alain smithee
    March 12, 2019 at 11:14 pm

    My employer uses Adobe Framemaker and RoboHelp. If there were Linux versions of these programs, I would happily switch to Linux. Adobe's decision to discontinue the Mac versions of Framemaker and RoboHelp are also the reason that I was forced to switch from Mac to Windows.

    As with other users, I don't always have a reliable internet connection, so I miss the ability to download an update so that I can install it later instead of requiring me to be tethered to the internet while the machine is 'updating'.

    I also miss simple, logical control panels. Whoever decided to move the display and power settings to the "Mobility Center" in Windows 10 needs to come down from their Ivory Tower and out into the real world.

  3. John Ingham
    February 7, 2019 at 7:09 am

    I am the owner of a "Netbook" in my case a Lenovo "Yoga" which has only one network connection method - WiFi. I keep this netbook in my car in case I need to connect to my workplace when I'm "out and about" which I do using my mobile phone's Wireless Broadband WiFi "Hot Spot". The problem is that when ever I need to use the notebook it invariably does a Windows Update which blows my meager Broadband data allocation every month! On my previous laptop (which had both Ethernet and WiFi network interfaces) I could set Windows Update to NOT use the WiFi, only the Ethernet, allowing me to control when Windows updates are downloaded. Now the only way I can prevent running up mobile broadband bills is to disable Windows Update in Services. Which is not the outcome i would have thought that Microsoft would be happy to support.

  4. Greg Pickett
    October 23, 2018 at 3:56 am

    I have spent countless hours with Microsoft support. One session apparently need a new install of a new version 1803. Session ran from 2030hrs to 0445 hrs the next morning.
    I was assured this will solve the problems.
    Issues were that updates were not progressing and if they did an error would occur. Also 100% disk usage was an absolute abomination.
    So, from this session I had around 10 days of trouble free issues.
    Then Outlook decided not to download emails, 100% disk usage was back....bit of tweaking by Microsoft and almost back to normal.
    Yesterday 22/10/2018, the Narrator decided to alert me of all things I entered, even code for a webpage.
    Contact Microsoft today 23/10/18 to be informed that this can occur due to a missing .dll file.
    Then the.comment of incompatibility of driver software, if OEM's do not update their drivers with Microsoft, it is their fault.
    Updated install was done again. We are now 2.5 hours and it has completed.
    Typed some code and Mr Narrator is back.
    I don't have a.problem that issues do occur with computers however, to be hindered for over 3 months due to Win 10 is ridiculous.
    Just about to get on chat with Microsoft for a 6th time in 2 months
    One word: USELESS

  5. Deadwood
    October 6, 2017 at 4:31 am

    I really don't need Windows as I need a connection to the internet, a browser and Android has more apps than I'll ever need nor want. Occasionally, I need to print something but not enough to need a printer and Sun Office covers a lot of ground. I don't need a PC and its far cheaper to go with something simple like Linux Ubuntu, Phoenix OS or Android. I doubt I will keep windows whether MS "pushes" their crapware or provides it free.

    • JD
      July 4, 2018 at 1:40 pm

      CRAPware is a much better and more appropriate name for MS. I suggest even another name for these arrogant people. Stop calling your software system Microsoft Windows and rename it "Windows 10 Gestapo-BullyWare."

  6. Infinitekiff
    July 28, 2017 at 8:19 am

    The most current version of windows 10 Pro 64 bit has stuffed up my touchscreen on my HP Spectre X360 (the very very expensive 17" model!!!)
    Problems range from the bloody annoying "incorrect password, please try again" At login message to it sometimes being unresponsive! The second most annoying is that screen rotate is locked and greyed out so I can no longer use tent mode, which was my mode of choice since it keeps the laptop elevated and cool! At least it's a full 360 hinge so I can still place it on its keyboard and tilt the screen back over in viewing mode! But I'm not happy about this one bit! Who's fault is it? Microsoft or HP? I've trawled the internet for 2 days now and nothing coming up, similarish issues but never quite the problem I am having and any forums where people were reporting very similar were left with stalemate answers from "unqualified" or inexperienced Microsoft so called "techies" or should I call them professional decoy agents hiding the truth that windows 10 should never have been released until it was watertight!!!!!

  7. Dave Sandeman
    July 24, 2017 at 12:50 am

    The aggressive updates policy in Windows 10 is an equivocal situation, with yes some benefits but also some serious concerns. Firstly, security being what it is these days, a very fast acting highly automated update system is a very good idea in principle. But of course that's not how things really work: the process is wide open to abuse by Microsoft themselves, to flog many of their own sub-standard apps and so called "features" that the consumer would rather be free to decline. And no one should have to say "no thanks" more than once, rather than every three days like clockwork. Of course the abuse by MS doesn't end there: along with their thinly disguised aggressive self promotion come endless opportunities for them to pick our pockets, and make no mistake, it is the mission of any business to make every nickel they can. Actual service in the consumer's interest is a secondary objective at best. In fact, consumer benefit is not an objective at all: if MS can force their own badly designed second rate web browser, pdf reader, entertainment viewer, search engine, and endless unwanted infommercial services on us, they can make a ton of extra income from all that bloatware while forcing us to be bogged down and distracted and unproductive... which is exactly what they do attempt.

    But getting back to the bona fide security issue, I wonder if MS have really considered that a highly regimented universal "updates" system is itself a fertile new ground for a new security exploit. The more uniform and predictable the target, the easier it is to find a vulnerable chink in the armour and the faster an attack can be spread.

    The third serious drawback is the rather idiotic assumption by Microsoft that everyone has a really reliable high bandwidth low cost internet connection all the time. Yes, there is a "metered" connection workaround in Home edition, and there are some even better options in Pro. But all that really does is make it rather complicated for conscientious users like me to try and do the formerly simple job of scheduling truly important updates in optimized sync with with my travels and work schedule. Just try doing a W10 update on your cell mobile hot spot in the middle of some big all metal walled plant or out at a remote rural jobsite. It appears that W10 is so busy trying to sneak its updates past us and ram them down our throats that I can't even find a proper report in the computer showing me the actual status of updating. That actually works counter to good security practices.

    That third objection also ties rather cynically to the typical speed of both Microsoft's servers and the speed of their update process itself. When I update, say, Firefox, the entire download comes in in seconds and applies smoothly and quickly. Not so with Microsoft's infernally inefficient system: in place of the old "Blue Screen of Death" we now seem to have the equally frustrating "Blue screen of Don't turn off your computer, Windows is updating". It reaches the point of sublime idiocy when all you want to do is load your Windows 10 notebook with some simple little typewritten report and head out the door to some meeting (and yes, Mr Gates, people DO still need to meet in person in the real world) but you can't even prep the job beforehand, because once again you are stuck at the "BSODTOetc".

    So, sure, make genuinely critical security updates a lot more persistent and insistent, but bring back some user control for us folks who really don't want your crappy obsolete optional utilities and who can't be sitting by a good internet connection day and night waiting for you to call and ask us out on a date. Anyone listening, Microsoft? I doubt it.

    • JD
      July 4, 2018 at 1:54 pm

      I am not ascomputer literate as I'd like to be. I hate Microsoft Windows since Windows 10 was forced upon us. I wonder if there is a way to go back to Windows 8.1. It took me a long time to learn it, because it is worse than Windows 7 or Windows XP. Hell! Windows 10 is not even as good as the first version of Windows 1.0, the Windows 3 versions, the Windows 2000 or any of the others (except Vista-ugh!) My favorite was Windows XP and second favorite Windows 7. I haven't like any versions since Windows XP and &, but once I got the hang of 8.1, I was able to decently maneuver around the system well enough to do what I wanted to do. BUT, Windows 10 is straight from the PITS OF HELL!!! Microsoft couldn't care LESS for ANY of their customers. Customers are the least of their concerns. I've got to figure how to get Linux or Ubuntu or something else and then learn how to use one of those systems. I'm sick AND tired of being pimped by the arrogant, non-caring, evil MS bandits.

  8. Rowdee
    July 19, 2017 at 12:52 pm

    Firstly, I have to ask this question. How does a multi BILLION dollar company that cant seem to make anything that actually works as specified even survive? The only OS that actually delivered (granted, it was held together by bandaids) was XP. After that its been nothing but a downhill slide into an ever growing nightmare of non functional, problematic, over complicated crap o rama. I guess having a captive audience entitles you to just hose the crap out of them and retain your fortune while they get hosed even more. Saying that, Win 8.1 was an awful OS and I really never figured out where stuff was kept. Win 10 seemed to save that situation by making things a bit more obviously located for us AND it seemed to be somewhat legacy oriented for gamers n such. I waited till the very last day (literally) to upgrade for free and was THRILLED to death at how well it seemed to work. Then, of course, MS had to go totally f*** it up with fixes that were more broken than the OS. I was fine until my HD died unexpectedly and my friendly neighborhood computer guy sent it back with 8.1 installed. Oh boy, beginning of yet another nightmare. Reinstalled 10 myself and it turned in to a real catastrophe. Suddenly, I have the Creators version and it has taken a solid month of reinstalls, fixes, multiple forums and on and on. Now, its stable, but still a few bugs. Firefox has had issues for quite some time and continues to do so, but I can work with it. Man, really MS? Is that how you treat the people who gave you all that hard earned money ? In the "real" world, you would have been out of business the first time you failed miserably. Now, its a habit and your attitude...... "LET THEM EAT CAKE" That cost someone dearly that statement did.

    • JD
      July 4, 2018 at 1:56 pm


  9. Judy
    March 30, 2017 at 6:01 am

    Updates are TOO invasive. Install password connections where there was none and then computer is locked. When installing updates, they don't always or, at least with the old system I had a choice. Next computer for me is a Mac.

  10. Cheryl
    December 8, 2016 at 4:47 pm

    The only reason Microsoft wants to auto install updates is to seize control of all the things you changed to protect your privacy. EVERY update has changed my preferences, syncing, cortana, opt out from ads, reading your emails (before you even do) your searches, location, linking your cell phone and all your other computers and devices and getting all the data from them, changed from disabled/opt out/blocked etc to allowing microsoft full access. Micro-snoop is notorious for sneaking in under the guise of doing you, the user, a solid. When if fact, its in their best interest. Same thing with the "free"upgrade. If Micro had made it clear upfront about the hooks they were sinking, no one would have installed W10.Microsoft is a true hooker.

    • Judy
      March 30, 2017 at 6:02 am

      How true. Nothing free is ever without it's tenticles.

  11. Stan-in-usa
    November 22, 2016 at 5:17 am

    After reading this article, I wonder why more people don't simply throw Microsoft out the door and install Linux instead.

  12. James Burns
    November 21, 2016 at 7:04 pm

    Given the grossly unreliable history of Microsoft past Windows updates, I am against forced updates from the same source. All that Microsoft is going to achieve is the infinite life of Windows 7 until the users migrate to Linux or die. I have three computers, two with Windows 7 and one with Linux. Eventually the computers themselves will have failures that will not be worth fixing. Any replacements will either have factory installed Linux, or I'll install Linux on them. Pity, because Windows 7 is a fine O/S

  13. Cirby
    October 18, 2016 at 3:27 pm

    Windows 10 is more of a headache than a help. Constant issues after it installs. And upgrades repeatedly cause compatibility problems with programs, and the individual is losing control of their own computer. Windows should never automatically force an update, its such an invasion of the consumer's privacy really. Everything on the computer is a pain to find also. My opinion is that Windows 10 is not a benefit to the consumer at all, it is nothing more than a way to force people to pay for upgrades they never wanted, and to bring more money to the computer software industry due to all the malfunctions it causes. I haven't talked to anyone yet that actually likes it.

  14. windows10 is awesome
    October 15, 2016 at 11:03 pm

    I have no problem with Microsoft trying to force anything. I just use Do not spy, and many other software's out there to tell Microsoft who's really in charge here. I update only when i feel like it.

    • Judy
      March 30, 2017 at 6:04 am

      I wish I had enough knowledge to do as you have done

  15. Vee
    August 3, 2016 at 8:53 pm

    Microsoft has screwed up computers for many years, they are the number one attacked OS out there, I only see things getting worse with this insane venture. They do not have the capability of protecting their OS and haven't since Windows 3.1. I do not trust this insanity.
    A quick in site, I was told by one of my clients that her son used to work for Microsoft and out and out quit, He was a debugger (someone how fixes the bugs in the system) and worked for many hours on fixing one of Microsoft's operating systems. He went to his boss with pages and pages of info to fix many problems. His boss paged through them and kept 3 of them and threw the rest away. He asked why he would do that and his answer was, WE WANT THEM TO HAVE PROBLEMS SO WE CAN SELL NEW PRODUCTS.

    • JD
      July 4, 2018 at 4:48 pm

      MicroGestapo hates its customers.

  16. win7user
    July 25, 2016 at 12:34 pm

    I had win10 as update on win7pro. After 10 days windows start button had problems and it stopped work... Many programs did not want work as with windows7. After 2-3 months my windows10 stopped and chrashed. Now I have good old windows7!

  17. Stan
    May 9, 2016 at 3:44 am

    I have been used Windows 10 during a year. But stopped since my HDD was broken. I don't know due to the time (3 years old) or due to "duty" of Windows 10 energy management, but I have what I have. And from the begging everything was silky-smooth. But few month later it started to have tendency to lagging and slow down. Even I did weekly defrag, was really unsatisfied with performance. Also inconsistency in UI took place, and those things were much obvious for a common eye. But at most I was confused when faced with boot options...Those just didn't even exist. Or probably better to say was accessible only from Windows->Settings menu. As for me it is really confusing to let user to chose how to boot only if Windows successfully loaded. Even they had restore option, which appears after next unsuccessful load, It didn't make anything clear. As those options at least on laptop didn't appear for some time and had to restart again and again. So I am here again with Windows 7, which works smooth and fast with normal boot menu on loading. I don't want to say that Windows 10 is bad. It has quite well done support for great variety of hardware and stable enough, but inconsistency and my dead hdd made a bad impression for me. Perhaps I will return back to Windows 10 on next 2016 big update "Redstone".

  18. justdave
    May 8, 2016 at 9:55 pm

    I probably will switch my desktop to Apple and keep my 13" laptop as a windows 7 Pro machine. The new Windows 10 OS is just too intrusive.
    I don't want anyone downloading onto my computer anything that i don't know about. Period.
    And of course I heard a lot about the spy part where everything you do is sent back to Microsoft. Wait till people figure that out! But, who's going to tell them?
    Would love some more info on that, no articles since the money ad machine started rolling.
    Big Brother finally arrived.

    • JD
      July 4, 2018 at 4:52 pm

      Yes, Big Brother, Lucifer Version 10 has arrived.

  19. Douglas Hunt
    March 29, 2016 at 11:24 am

    I just updated to Windows 10 pro64bit I have been using Windows 7 64bit. I switched over to my second hard drive and did the update and tested the 2 of them at many different instances. Shut down / boot up. Game loading. Video play. Internet speeds. Closing and opening steam, running a 4,000k graphics tester. And in each test the Windows 10 pro was same, or better each time. If you want control over Windows updates. Get 10 pro. It has some cool new features while still having the beloved start menus and desktop screen. Also if you want to get rid of Windows 10 upgrade message there is tons of 3rd party software that can delete it. Search google for Windows 10 update delete. Hope everyone gets help or info they need from this comment.

  20. Grobmad
    March 1, 2016 at 3:46 pm

    If you want to stay on Win7 and get rid of the pesky Win10 update reminder, simply install GWX Control Panel, and your problem is forever solved!

    • Joe Keeley
      March 1, 2016 at 7:13 pm

      Thanks for the tip, Grobmad! It's a shame that third-party software is even needed to have to do that, but good it's available.

  21. George
    February 19, 2016 at 2:38 am

    Have your life taken over COMPLETELY by Micro$oft?! We all should have an AntiVirus Prog. (continually updated!) that will stop most of the trouble. Win7 already goes on my nerves, because it keeps shoving "update to Windows 10" in my face and one cannot even STOP that greedy bastard. Will certainly stick with XP and Win7 !!! I'd rather run UBUNTU than Win10!

  22. prithiba
    February 9, 2016 at 4:24 pm

    if its going to useful with limited cons , tats sounds great.

  23. M. S.
    February 8, 2016 at 1:53 am

    If they force it like mentioned above might be time to buy and apple. You pay for a product and they want to ram down your throat how your going to use it. I like my desktop with a mouse, could care less about touch screen garbage (personal thing). I look at info and facts not the least interested in a myriad of apps and crappy games to waste my time away, basic fast computer and consistent functions. Stop changing everything every year!!!

    • JD
      July 4, 2018 at 4:53 pm


  24. dun
    February 1, 2016 at 9:37 pm

    In windows 10 yes its free what it does is turn off all the things that Microsoft taught you to use like DVD player and media player. Everything in win 7 & 8 that was useful is now 3rd party software. If you pay for software like windows 7 and 8 and its the complete version why does it need support or updates? If its not online it does not work? I do know you can't find any form of help without online. . . Right now Microsoft has become the best sales team for Apple.

    • Judy
      March 30, 2017 at 6:07 am

      Couldn't agree more. Buy Apple

  25. NoizBoi
    January 21, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    I hate the idea of forced updates!

    As a freelance engineer I rely on my laptops to do a duty when I turn up at certain venues. I rely on them to serve a critical job so if the laptops decided to implement an update during work time then my job would be compromised and I may be liable to be sued or even worse jailed!

    I'm sticking with Win 7 on one laptop and desktop and 8.1 on the other laptop.

    MICROSOFT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE listen to the people who buy your product - without us you would not exist....

    Nuff said...

  26. sherry
    January 18, 2016 at 8:24 pm

    I downloaded windows 10 on my 1 year lenova laptop on an 8.1 windows and it crashed my whole computer, I lost everything and had to delete windows 10 and reinstall my entire system as a new laptop just purchased, and it pisses me off that a few programs that I like are not available on windows 10.

    They need to get there shit together if they want everyone to move to windows 10, AND they need to provide free 24 hours technical support to help everyone with any problems they may encounter, without this help, I will not download windows 10 again, I got a new laptop because my old one kept crashing, I am so done with that and windows 10 was a major headache in this department that I really do not need.

    I do not like control freaks as well, free will, free choice, I do my part to down load what I need to keep my computer safe along with a good security and malware protection that is always keeping up to date and trying to stay one step or more ahead against would be hackers and such.

    Nope window's 10 needs to offer more, and more guarantees before I will even consider it again.

    The only reason I downloaded windows 10 was because I did not want to have to pay for it later, and that is there scare tactic to get people to all go to one system. maybe in the future we all may have no choice, but for now, i will take that chance.

  27. dun
    January 13, 2016 at 9:58 am

    Welcome to the Obama health care law via windows. I wonder if Microsoft remembers Windows Millennium. Yes that was the OS they produced to help pay for the law suite. At the time for manipulating its users forcing them by default to use IE. It made sense but at the time no other browser. The question is with a forced download. How good of a patch is it if the update crashes your computer. That would be an interesting patch if you could start the machine to see the patch. The question I have. Can Microsoft guarantee the updates they are forcing on you to be correct, and if not can they be held liable. For the users loss of wage hours spent trying to get the machine to start? What is the value of a family that does all there school work and planning on there home computer? Or does the EULA state cause it was free that you take it at your own risk? Nothing is free.

  28. Ollie Moore
    January 7, 2016 at 1:29 pm

    Well, the reason I'm here is that my Windows 8.1 just forcefully installed a 'critical update', and now my computer won't even boot up properly. Oh, and I have all my setting set to ignore/not install updates. All I would like to be able to do is NOT INSTALL UPDATES and keep my computer STABLE. Why is it so hard for Microsoft not to force updates? If we choose not to install them to the detriment of our systems or Microsoft's capacity to help us troubleshoot it's our problem, but if they force them on us and break our fucking computers what is that? Obviously not their problem because they're still doing it.

    Seriously, if anyone knows how I'd formally complain about this and get a written response please let me know.

  29. Ems
    December 31, 2015 at 5:17 pm

    If it is imposed onto you, rather than a choice you make, then it's bad. Simple as that!

    • Jermaine Turner
      July 25, 2016 at 9:41 pm

      Start a blog that gathers all users who've had their computers compromised or damaged, then start a petition with these consumers and file a class-action lawsuit; they will soon take you seriously.

      • Lauren
        October 29, 2016 at 11:08 pm

        Agreed, I'd participate. My new Lenovo arrived with so many error messages that I cried when I first got it. It's a pile of crap at best. I don't like Apple but may be forced to go that way because Win 10 is a disaster. Everyday it's something else with this pile of junk. I don't cry anymore; now I'm just pissed that Microsoft and Lenovo robbed me of $1000+ and have cost me business because this stupid laptop fails with every update and I can't get work done. And throw in a few $$$$ more for my emotional distress...!!! X-/

  30. Larry J Eastin
    December 21, 2015 at 3:58 am

    I've got a Windows laptop a Windows desktop and two tablets that use the Android operating system. After researching windows 10 I will not be upgrading my desktop or laptop to Windows. Forced upgrades are a bad idea . I have had windows updates that have caused my system to crash it was to the point where it would not even boot. I'll never upgrade my laptop or my desktop on Windows 10. I wish there was an Android operating system for my desktop on my laptop. The last Microsoft operating system that I actually liked was DOS. Microsoft wants to be Apple so bad but it doesn't know how to do it. I'm done with Windows.

    • ...
      January 6, 2016 at 10:17 pm

      I could not agree more. Last Windows I liked was 7 though.

    • Ruben
      January 8, 2016 at 2:35 pm

      Well, why not install Ubuntu? Android and Ubuntu are both Linux (or at least in some way Android is like Linux, please correct me if I am wrong).

    • Infinitekiff
      July 28, 2017 at 8:34 am

      BlueStacks or Nox!
      I've tried Nox it's not bad.
      Haven't tried BlueStacks yet but apparently has good win 10 support so if you just end up having the windows on to boot your machine you can then run the android emulator/VM
      Personally I wouldn't do either I'd just completely remove win OS and install something like Mint or Ubuntu or Fedora
      Linux mint is particularly good if you choose the desktop mate version as this isn't a fully blown Os but packs the punch like one in terms of the almost unlimited number of programs you can install from the reps and of course all for free! I couldn't recommend mint more! If you want added security and support I guess you could go with ubuntu but you generally need top of the range machines to run it! It's Huge! And very system resource hungry but if you have a decent machine you know it's actually going to purr along like a dream even though it's a big OS! Unlike stupid windoze!

  31. HelloYo
    December 17, 2015 at 9:40 pm

    Any new comments on this? How's windows 10 now that's its been out for a while to everyone?

  32. Anonymous
    September 29, 2015 at 2:03 am

    I upgraded my Lenovo 110s with a win7 basic version on it to windows 10 update. before the update my machine performance was basically considerable, playing movies with supported format using WM player was no problem, playing some basic games still no problem. And here comes the update, thanks because now I can now play my movie with SLOW MOTION features SLUGGISH! and the basic games installed on it also SLUGGISH!

    And I cannot use my WIN7 serial key into WIN10 serial key! isn't supposed to be free why I should buy from the their market?!

  33. Anonymous
    August 30, 2015 at 5:36 am

    At the Moment, not many colleges are migrating to Windows 10. That's why colleges and universities are sticking to Windows 7 & 8.1

    • Mihir Patkar
      August 30, 2015 at 6:06 am

      Well, with large institutions, they need to take their time and check for bugs, security holes, and so on before upgrading. Colleges always take time, it's not just Windows, it's even with Mac.

  34. Anonymous
    August 28, 2015 at 4:16 pm

    Windows 10 is a joke. Like windows 8 and I am sure the later windows 11, we are being forced to purchase and use these operating systems. the Microsoft company is now forcing people to lease their faulty, intrusive, crap os by making you pay a weekly, monthly, or yearly fee. The best part is, if you do not subscribe to this Microsoft simply stops supporting the current operating system and forces you into purchasing what ever crap their trying to shove down your throat at the moment.

  35. Anonymous
    August 24, 2015 at 4:19 pm

    It all sounds great in the beginning. But, with forcing upgrades upon us it takes away free choice as well as do we really realize what all we are having to download and how much privacy we will lose. Windows 10 reports I've read violate a lot of privacy. I personally believe that this will be a precursor to Bill Gates "One world" theme via controlling what is downloaded and how its used etc. I think flexibility and choice make a better market. Again just my opinion

  36. Anonymous
    August 10, 2015 at 11:48 pm

    I don't like this forced update idea. I'm currently running 8.1 Pro. At the beginning of march 2015 my laptop updated automatically, after I couldn't connect to the internet for two months. Ethernet and Wi-Fi wouldn't work. I was at least able to use the Ethernet by restoring it's driver, but it didn't work for the Wi-Fi. At least when an update came out to fix that I was able get it. After I chose to have it set to download but ask me to install them.

  37. Anonymous
    August 10, 2015 at 12:49 pm

    one of the worst windows i have ever seen, once downloaded the mouse right click stopped working

    second time downloaded the blue screen of death started coming 90 percent the time i boot my pc

    major bug fixes needed for this windows 10

    i rate it 2/10

  38. Anonymous
    August 3, 2015 at 3:34 pm

    I installed Windows 10 Pro in VMware Fusion. what I have observed, Win 10 is VERY intrusive of your personal data, camera, contacts etc. The updates cannot be changed, they are automatically updated, you cannot see what the updates are. Someone is always collecting data, always looking at your computer. It's not like we are being spied on enough, now with Microsoft collecting data, seems to fit in with BHO's plan.

  39. James Bruce
    July 31, 2015 at 10:11 am

    Thankfully, I have a legit copy of Windows 8 Pro, so I'll be disabling any kind of automated update nonsense. Particular when working with things like Arduino / Oculus, updating graphics and interface drivers can render them useless - I'm already a year out of date with graphic drivers because of incompatibilities.

  40. Anonymous
    July 30, 2015 at 12:25 am

    Pro: Unified Development

    I am a windows developer and I absolutely call BS on this.

    Nothing about forced updates unifies anything. What it does mean is that when I write a new windows program, and an update breaks it, then I my program is broken for *everyone* instead of only those running the latest. Instead of writing and debugging something and knowing it should be good for a few years and even if its not there is still a large market share that won't upgrade immediately. The result is needing to constantly monitor updates and the moment you fall behind you lose everything.

    I don't want my OS as a service. I want my OS to be a stable and unchanging point of conformity on my computer. The only "updates" I want are the ones that will benefit me and I'm the only one who can decide that.

    As it stands I'm voting with my expert opinion. While I'll still have a windows machine for development purposes I'm going to make sure I have Linux compatible ports or everything I write from now on (thanks mono). I'm also moving to Linux as my main environment and advising everyone else to start doing the same.

    • Anonymous
      July 31, 2015 at 9:33 am

      Although I'm not a developer I know full well that all software has bugs no matter how much we test it before its released. I share your concern here that a Windows update could interact with your code and 'break it' despite your best efforts to prevent it. I used to work in an international support group and it was not uncommon for different components of software to crash when one or the other was updated and it was a constant support nightmare to issue bulletins to say use version 'x' software on one hardware module if another hardware module had been upgraded to version 'y' or whatever.

      The one thing I learned very early on in upgrades, ONLY do one upgrade on one item at a time and if a problem surfaces, HALT the upgrade process until the causes of the problem have been identified. MS upgrading everyone without any option to choose is just an accident waiting to happen !

  41. Anonymous
    July 28, 2015 at 6:41 am

    Don't believe it people. We are being lied to more than ever. Upgrades galore from Google, Verizon, Samsung and now Microsoft. I call BS!!! This smells of NSA to me.

  42. Anonymous
    July 28, 2015 at 3:04 am

    Here is my question. So far I have only read that the automatic update applies to Windows OS updates and things like drivers. does this apply to ALL 3rd party programs? Do ALL programs auto update? because i use programs i purposely keep in lower versions because i find them to be better such as my Hauppauge recording software for my HDPVR device.

    can i get some clarifications please?

  43. Anonymous
    July 18, 2015 at 1:38 pm

    Stay away from it!
    Keeping my Windows 7 then switching to Ubuntu.
    Not good for PC or Notebooks.

  44. Anonymous
    July 14, 2015 at 3:46 pm


    Now, this shouldn't be so hard to understand, that I have to put it in caps. What made Microsoft great in the early years, is that they seemed to have the same view. What's made Microsoft stock and value sink in the past 12 years, is that they've LOST that view.

    This is how tyranny starts, in the name of the common good. Mr. Gates, God bless him, realized that there were gaping security holes in the software due to the internet becoming big itself, so issued some memo or other (so the story goes) to the MSFT troops, telling them all 'we gotta protect people!' Well and good, and .. the rest is history. So now, to protect means to cede your own freedom to some big servers out in lala land, hoping that the protection you sought, you'll get.

    It never works, in history. So it will never work, on a computer. Either your computer will become the equivalent of a Mao Jacket or North Korean newsreel, or you will have to 'rebel'.

    So the world is now polarizing, with Linux gaining all those who say 'Enough!' Meanwhile, the hoi pouloi, busy with their tea and baguette, will accept whatever Microfop gives them. Which, is less and less and more and more restrictive, each time.

    May as well buy a Chromebook, now.

  45. Anonymous
    July 11, 2015 at 3:53 pm

    ok windows 10 is not free at all and this would be one of many dark secrets microsoft kept quietly lets give everyone a scenireo me and my brother purchased windows 8.1 lappy same configuration orignal windows mine is up to date and mostly use it for gaming never updated once he is playing gta 5 on his lappy i cant even install runtime error lots of update screwed my gaming occasionally problem with windows live gaming failing pathetic backward compatabilty support in gaming and xbox live another failed attempt like windows live now considering we all consider upgrading to pro y would we do that maybe cuz free 1-2 year office key or better support but if its giving ability to stop upgrade then no thanks or maybe abilty to change file format i occasionally use my laptop my downloading speed is 60kbps good fr browsing but still very costly in india then my speed would be divided between antivirus update ,software update and my usual browsing would suffer youtube will buffer and Admit it no is better then slow internet i cancellled my upgrade after readiing article beware since they r saying last windows version it means they will need money IF NOT TODAY THEN TOMMOROW THEY WILL HAVE MANY LOOP HOLES STUPID ATTEMPT TO LOCK USERS ONCE THEY UPGRADE

    • Anonymous
      July 29, 2015 at 2:02 am

      Dear Satyam Pandey,

      It is highly appreciated that you wrote a detailed explanation on why one should not install windows 10. I am not commenting on the update part but, do you realize how painful it is to read through your comment? With no full stops and punctuation marks its like reading Greek and Latin. Next time you think of helping others by giving your opinion please make sure you are readable.

      P.S. Do not blame internet speeds in India. We get decent speeds at extremely low prices. Do care to explore all the ISPs.

      • Anonymous
        July 29, 2015 at 8:57 am

        Ok rajeev i will address all the issues u mentioned first of all i m not seekbanother isp just because microsoft is rolling out windows 10 second cheap internet connection i hope u r not talking about 2g plans or u might be earning in dollars so u dont feel difference in price or if u r student u r parents have lot of money i get that now come to my english grammer part when i write a comment its just get my opinion out there and i usually do it in mobile so i don't like using punctuations in between my thought but if u really don't like my comment either ignore or stop knit picking, if u r from grammer internet police then i surrender

  46. Anonymous
    July 2, 2015 at 4:15 am

    services.msc -> Windows Update -> Properties -> Startup Type: Disabled.

    • Anonymous
      July 14, 2015 at 3:52 pm

      You got that right, Chris!

  47. Anonymous
    June 30, 2015 at 9:22 am

    So now we find out how Microsoft has dropped the other shoe on home hobbyists. No non-business upgrade or System Builder Edition will yield a Windows 10 Pro installation which will be able to defer updates (except maybe for a day or less).

    I am through with Microsoft. I have a ASUS Transformer Book tablet, which is as of this summer or Fall, available for sale.

    There is a Ubuntu tablet (rather pricey) available from a Chinese company. It;s the Cube i7 tablet, which in the Ubuntu edition needs an optional keyboard dock. This one is a Broadwell CoreM 5Y10 Intel chipset, and has 64 GB onboard storage, not eMMC, but SATA SSD. So you'd expect this tablet to be a bit pricey, and it is. With the keyboard, we're talking around $530.00 plus shipping (free to $16.00, depending on shipping method).

    The reason I go into detail about this one tablet is that it's the only serious tablet I've seen which says it comes with Ubuntu preinstalled. But this may be the Chinese version of Ubuntu, not the Canonical version. Which could present updating problems of its own.

    Other Linux tablets with decent hardware seem to be in the offing, and if Windows 10 for home and pro users is really going to suck this badly, there may get to be a significant (though small) market for more Linux tablets.

    Instead of sitting around bitching at Misrosoft, it is possible without doing any tech wizardry, to obtain a perfectly serviceable Linux tablet. BTW, Canonical themselves have been working on a Ubuntu Tablet. But truth be known, the Canonical Ubuntu Touch interface and drivers are not quite market-ready at this point. Give them a year or so.

    Just in time for Windows 8.1 refugees who may be asked by Microsoft to update or not get any new stability and features updates, to jump ship to Open Source systems.

    Again, I don't expect a flood of Linux converts, but some new users will undoubtedly emerge from the Microsoft mess. And some is all it may take to finally give Linux the place it deserves in tablets and desktop PCs. A place which Microsoft no longer deserves.

    • Anonymous
      July 14, 2015 at 4:03 pm

      There's a cheaper alternative: go to Amazon and buy Linux of your fav flavor on a stick. Link: . That one is in my Shopping cart right now.

      Cheaper still, is if you make the stick, but either way, once you have it, you put the stick in your powered-down machine, turn it on, wait for the thing to boot, and on its desktop somewhere you'll see an icon which says, 'Install Me' (with 'Me' being the kind of Linux it is).

      Now, you don't want the hassle of installing to a hard drive, so you grab one of your old blank external drives of 60GB or better, and plug that in, too.

      Then you click on the icon, and when it presents you with the drives to install to, you pick the one you just plugged in. Usually you'll have four questions to answer, AND DO give yourself a user name and password -- and then go get lunch. The thing usually installs in 30 minutes (example is Mint, easiest for Windows diehards like me) -- and then it tells you how to shut down, so that the installer ends properly.

      Now you've a SECOND COMPUTER on a stick (the other external drive), and can plug it into any machine. It is as hard to learn a Linux distro as it is to learn the latest Windows (same problem, where are all the bleeping commands to do what you used to do easily). But the advantage is, you are never forced to update it. The other advantage is, it will rescue your Windows machine when the latter tanks (and you know it will). So you can stay with say, XP (I do this, have 7 XP machines), but also have the modern stuff (which is often more advanced than Windows, now).

      It's not easy to learn Linux, and I'm no fangirl. But I want to keep MY machines and this is how I can do it. Fortunately Linux has come a long way from the geeky days, and at least for Mint, now has an interface I can use without having to learn much Linux.

      That's what Windows was versus DOS. So now, it's Linux versus Windows. Sad, but better than going down the rabbit hole with Alice into Cortanaland.

  48. Gavin Phillips
    June 30, 2015 at 9:13 am

    Seems like a good way to get people to upgrade to Pro. I'm personally against it - I like updating when I want too, and certainly not when I turn my system off. Saying that, I have missed some important security updates as I'm never up-to-date, so it could be worthwhile for slack individuals such as me.

  49. Anonymous
    June 29, 2015 at 11:16 pm

    I generally don't update because when I bother to look through the list of "security patch" or "consolidated fixes for internet explorer" (both "critical"), I find that they patch software that I don't have. Or that I have specifically gone to the services tab and selected "Stop" then "Disable" because it's some inherently insecure or bothersome thing I never wanted to be there in the first place (remember Silverlight?). Hundreds of updates, totalling gigs of transfer over time, for software I don't have, don't use, and will never open. What's the sense in that? A large percentage of security patches are for previous "patches" that were botched. I think the "forced update" is Microsofts way of releasing a buggy piece of crap and then slowly apologising for it, one patch at a time.

  50. Anonymous
    June 29, 2015 at 12:15 pm

    Using laptops that are periodically connected on hotspots, slow public wiFi, and then also at home (fast wifi)... as well as the potentioal of updates with ill intended coonsequences...

    I also never install any updates for the core OS on the day it is released (usually wait a day or 2).

    I would favor a snooze/delay option for the installs.

    Have it pop up that there are updates available and give the option to snooze update for X hours or for 1 Day.... And then maintain a max snooze of perhaps 7 days from when it was 1st snoozed.

    That would allow you to not have the installs forced on the 1st day and you could snooze it either until you were on a better connection, a better time for you (convenience), or to allow a few days for others to up date in case the patch caused a bug.

    Forced with a snooze is better than forced with no option....
    And would still allow Microsoft the benefit of knowing that the OS on all devices would be updated within a week.

  51. Anonymous
    June 26, 2015 at 1:53 pm

    I travel and use a cell service for data for prolonged periods of time. I don't like having large downloads when I'm paying by the gigbyte. I prefer to wait until I'm on a free Wifi connection. I'm hoping someone will find a way to block Windows 10 Update, maybe by configuring a firewall?? Otherwise I'll stick with Windows 8.1. I don't think I want to pay for the pro version just to block Windows Upadate.

  52. Anonymous
    June 26, 2015 at 1:35 pm

    How about this instead?

    You get notified when updates are available, at intervals you choose.

    You can update any time you want by clicking on an icon.

    You can update the operating system, plus all your applications, drivers and libraries, all at the same time.

    You get to see what's in the update, by package.

    You can see how big each package is, its version number, whether it is critical, security, or just a nice to have. You can select which updates to get, maybe leaving the huge ones for when you have time.

    You have the option of getting bleeding-edge updates that are possibly or known to be unstable (default to NOT get).

    You get updates from a secure repository, but can add trusted repositories.

    You can see changelogs for most updates, with the reason for the update and the name of the person who maintained it.

    Or you can run it on auto and with a couple clicks it runs in the background, and you're up to date.

    Linux Mint.

  53. Anonymous
    June 26, 2015 at 6:42 am

    Did like the comment, "not upgrading even if the pay me for every hour I use their OS". Nobody would, because they are paying ME. However if the upgrade creates a restore point (does windows 10 still have backup and restore points?), can you restore to an earlier time, which is what I do when I get the blue screen of death.

  54. Anonymous
    June 26, 2015 at 5:40 am

    At the moment, Windows 10 is free but I have a feeling there will come a time when MS will charge us for using it. My opinion... for what it's worth.
    On the other hand, UBUNTU is free and will always be free.

  55. Anonymous
    June 26, 2015 at 5:12 am

    I have been dual booting between Windows 7 and Linux for a while now. I will continue to do so, until I am forced to abandon Windows 7. Windows 7 works for what I use it for and Linux steps in when I need it. If I am ever forced to upgrade from Windows 7 I will move to Linux completely. I believe the "automatic updates" will bring a lot more attention to an OS like Ubuntu for first time users.

    • Anonymous
      June 26, 2015 at 5:34 am

      I am in the same position as you, Lee McLain, except that I prefer to use Linux rather than Windows 7.
      UBUNTU is the way to go. I love it!

  56. Anonymous
    June 26, 2015 at 3:01 am

    Forced control; no choice; no opting out.
    What would you expect from a company in bed with NSA and the

    win(H)8 was enough for me. I bought 8 Fructose units. Not looking back.
    However, Linux is not out of the question. Rumor of other OS's in beta persist. Come on, Coders.

    This "new step" is part of MSFT's plan to get users to surf and compute through their mainframe and their OS installed there (by monthly subscription subject to change without notice). Your desktop will be no different than other networked computers at work, a gutless work station. Everything you do will be monitored, stored and shared with "authorities", looking for evidence to use against you, for "your own safety."

    It will be One Big Brother Network where outliers will be shut out. Creative minds will be put on hold. If your violating their rules, you'll be shut off. Cavete tyrannorum!

    You may like this Utopian Malaise. I say, MSFT can go to hell. Win(pre)10 is the winME (Millions of Errors) of summer next. ©2015

    PS. I am not upgrading even if they pay me for every hour I use their OS.

    • Anonymous
      June 26, 2015 at 6:44 am

      Did you mean to say this PS. I am not upgrading even if they pay me for every hour I use their OS. because if they are paying me, I would never upgrade.

  57. Anonymous
    June 26, 2015 at 1:40 am

    Forced update makes a lot of sense for applications.

    The operating system is like the soft foundation for your computer. All applications have to run on and interact with that foundation.

    For the most part this shouldn't be a problem, however there will be times when an application will interact with the operating system in a very specific way, and making changes to the operating system may require upgrading or changing the application. I can appreciate why that would be a good thing for parts of the operating system like security components, but could be disastrous (for the user) if the operating system is being changed to 'enhance' capabilities. For example, the recent discussion on how Do Not Track should be implemented on browsers (ie. effectively reversing the way this setting should be handled) highlights how a relatively simple change can adversely affect the user experience.

    Forcing operating system upgrades may effectively force upgrades to applications - what happens if the application supplier decides not to upgrade? Will the user simply be forced to uninstall that application (which may be core to the computer activities for that user)?

    A final point - will the auto-updates be 'smart' enough not to update on slow or usage-limited internet connections, and wait till the computer is connected to a superior service? Who will be liable for excess data usage charges?

  58. Anonymous
    June 25, 2015 at 3:24 pm

    I am not a fan of the forced updates either. I have Windows 8.1 and there is a driver update for VGA,, the two times I accidentally downloaded it! My screen went to the lowest brightness and I could not adjust the brightness. It was hard to see the screen unless you were in a very dark room, and then you had to strain to see it!! I had to roll back the driver and am very careful not to install it again. If they force these updates no matter what!!! That will not be a good thing. I want my computer to work properly. They need to reconsider the forced updates as Not being able to see your screen is not a good thing. I make sure I get my updates whenever they come out, I am not one of those people who is a slack dog when it comes to keeping my computer up to date. Microsoft please reconsider forcing the updates on anyone. You should only force updates for those who never update their computers.

  59. Anonymous
    June 25, 2015 at 2:50 pm

    As I understand it, MS will also provide an API or at least registry setting to *disable* this for enterprise customers. At least they had better, if they expect *any* significantly-sized corporations to adopt Win10. It is the general practice at a lot of companies to first validate/test updates before they are allowed out into their general population.

    So the thought is that if there is a way to disable this on your own system, using the same registry hacks. That is, of course, presuming MS doesn't decide to be a bunch of a**holes and find some way to block that for everyone else (entirely possible, knowing them).

  60. Anonymous
    June 25, 2015 at 1:43 pm

    Forced updates - users having no control on what is installed on their machine-"trusted computing" insuring Micro$oft maintains full control - no thank you.Move to Linux

  61. Anonymous
    June 25, 2015 at 1:37 pm

    Not a big fan of the forced update model. I always wait a few days before applying Windows updates to make sure they aren't breaking people's systems, and I never take driver updates from Windows. Unless it's a security issue, if a driver is working I don't bother it. Too many times in the past I applied driver updates only to create some computability problem, so now I am of the "if it ain't broke" school of thought.

    I mostly use Linux, but Windows can't be escaped completely. I really hope Microsoft doesn't get too heavy handed with the user, but they ARE a thousand pound gorilla.

  62. Anonymous
    June 25, 2015 at 1:24 pm

    Windows 10 keeps getting shiftier and shiftier. Does this mean that I'll be forced to download all those IE security/compatibility updates even though I always uninstall IE?

    There was one security update several years ago that supposedly would scan your hard drive for "suspicious" material and report back to Microsoft. I don't know if it was a legit thing or not, but lots of people were concerned and refused to install it. Nothing really is gonna stop Microsoft from pulling something like that if updates are forced.

    Plus when in auto mode the thing always chooses the worse times to update. Starting up your computer? Please reboot to apply latest updates! It will only take 30 min of configuring.

  63. Anonymous
    June 25, 2015 at 9:21 am

    The more I learn about forced updates, the more I'm drawn towards the 'Leave It' option of MicroSoft's generous Take It or Leave It offer. Their decision to classify the upgrade to windows 10 advert as a system upgrade looks like a vision of the future when there will be no option but to stare at that kind of stuff for several months whether you like it or not.

    Probably more important though is that even shelling out a few hundred dollars or a Pro licence would only buy a temporary reprieve. As an example of the potential problem, there's an upgrade I've never applied because it fights with a third party driver upgrade on my system.

    It's not really on that I might log on to do some work Monday morning to find the program I need to use doesn't work any more. (I'm assuming that, if you're not allowed to refuse an update, you're not allowed to reverse it either)

    Still there's plenty of details to come out yet; but since it's going to be a lot easier to reverse not upgrading than upgrading it'll be a case of 'wait and see' for me.

  64. Anonymous
    June 25, 2015 at 8:39 am

    Thanks for this Joe. Are you absolutely certain that a free update from Windows 7 Pro to Windows 10 Pro wouldn't allow users to choose which updates they install?

  65. Anonymous
    June 24, 2015 at 10:40 pm

    General security and OS updates are fine and TBH windows would be a much safer environment if people actually updated.

    However, it's the forced driver updates that are going to drive people NUTS!!

    Take an AMD owner (like myself) the last WHQL driver was released in December, so windows 10 will insist on "updating" to that very old driver... Now you want to play the latest game, you will have to install the latest Beta (provided AMD have been bothered to make one available-but that's another story..). Windows update forces the old driver to be installed, now your game wont run very well if at all... In fact with the latest build it has actuially installed that driver WHILST ive been playing, causing the game to crash and all the angst that goes with not having saved for 2 hours....

    We were advised by MS that with a PRO version we could disable this "feature" (current use of the word which seems to mean something is broken theses days...)
    This article implies that as an up-grader I WONT be able to do this? Oh dear as a gamer that means win10 is absolutely useless to me.. I have put up with having to reinstall a driver everyday because, well, those are the breaks in beat but if that's what it will be like after 29th July? back to windows 8.1 for me.

  66. Anonymous
    June 24, 2015 at 10:30 pm

    Forced recommendations would be ok.
    Other than that, I am a big proponent of choice in and of itself regardless of this article.