Why The Internet Provides A Thriving Environment For Hate & Trolling [Opinion]

Ryan Dube 20-01-2012

Why The Internet Provides A Thriving Environment For Hate & Trolling [Opinion] cruelmanI was reading a fascinating story that was recently published in the Wall Street Journal about a kid named Aidan Dwyer that believed he had discovered a way to configure solar panels to mimic the Fibonacci sequence that makes up the structure of tree branches. Aidan’s theory – a fairly decent theory for a kids that’s only 13 years old – is that by mimicking that sequence, he might be able to also mimic the efficiency of nature itself.


So, he performed an experiment. Using a equal number of solar cells, young Aidan laid out the solar panels side by side in sunlight. One, the typical flat panel that people use today, and the other his unique “tree” design – a metal structure shaped like a tree branch. Young Aidan hooked up a meter to each, and to his surprise, he saw a higher voltage reading from his tree design. It was a remarkable finding, he thought.  So he decided, with the support of his parents, to enter it into a national science competition – and he won.

The Internet Attacks Dreams

What happened next is something that those of us that have been on the Internet for a long time now would not find very surprising. The story about the science competition hit the Internet, and everyone from PhD researchers to armchair scientists took a look at young Aidan’s design, and the flaming began.

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According to the Wall Street Journal, Aidan’s introduction to the world of online commenters didn’t go too well.

“Commenters and bloggers attacked Aidan with vitriol usually saved for political enemies and the Kardashians. Blogs decried his experiment as ‘bad science’ and ‘impossible nonsense.’ Someone called him ‘an alien—a cool one, though.'”

Reading the article made me remember some of the stories that I used to write about years ago, such as science scams and other silly claims throughout the fields of Ufology and the paranormal. I’ve always felt justified, as an engineer, in my online attitude. In fact, I’ve been one of those vitriolic writers before, trashing poorly designed scientific theories and various silly claims like alleged “free energy” findings.


Here is a blog post of mine in 2006, publicly ripping apart a guy who constantly claimed there were connections between UFO stories and the CIA and other government agencies.

I called him an idiot, a moron, liar…

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This was back in 2006, and in the next 5 years, I gradually – for lack of a better word – “matured”, to some degree. And writing for MUO helped, because I started noticing what it’s like to be at the receiving end of all sorts of nasty accusations and cruel comments.


Why People Feel the Right to Be Cruel Online

The truth is, I really don’t think that I would talk that way to people in real life. I don’t think many people would. The guy I was slamming above – if we were sitting together in some cafe having coffee – we would probably have a pretty interesting intellectual conversation – disagreements and all.

But there is just something about the Internet that feeds hate and anger. For me, it’s people that flip out and draw premature conclusions over so-called scientific “discoveries”. I’m sure that’s what angered the many PhD academics and skeptics in Aidan’s case. But do we have to be so cruel about it? Even here at MUO – a community that I consider to be very intellectual and mature – there is a contingent of people that have a certain arrogance, and feel justified in calling someone they don’t even know a moron.

Here’s an MUO Answers commenter calling the questioner stupid.

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Or this commenter in another article calling another reader retarded.

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And yet another spat between commenters on another article, issuing pretty nasty jabs back and forth.

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What has scared me the most, since writing and reading posts and comments from other writers here and elsewhere on the web, is that the cruelest comments that I’ve read remind me….of me. It is a sobering realization, and one that dampens my comments as the years go by, although I am still known for losing my temper with others now and then. I don’t know if it’s genetic, or maybe just a curse.

Mistakes Lead To A Pig Pile

What I’ve noticed is that two things seem to incite a greater level of vitriol, the likes of which poor young Aidan had to experience. The first is making a mistake. Online folks are very unforgiving when it comes to making mistakes. Aidan’s mistake was that in his entry into the science competition, he only measured voltage. Unfortunately, voltage alone doesn’t equal overall power – so his findings were questionable. That one single mistake led to an influx of attacks and name-calling.

The other factor seems to be anonymity. Anonymous posts are almost always particularly harsh…cowards are always so brave with their words when they don’t have to use their real name. Would those same people have spoken those same words directly to the young boy’s face, in the presence of his parents? I doubt it.

And if Aidan goes on to accurately measure the power of his test contraption, and he is proven correct in his theory, will all of those arrogant, nasty people respond again and apologize to young Aidan? Will they be remorseful for attacking a young child that is motivated enough to explore science at such a young age? Probably not.

Why do you think people get off on trolling and posting hateful comments online?  Have you ever done it yourself and regretted it? Let us know your thoughts and insights in the comments below.

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  1. Will Killyou
    January 18, 2017 at 9:17 pm

    Anonymity is important! And you are all way too soft and thin skinned! Without anonymity there would never of been the American revolution since much of the rhetoric preceding it was written under pseudonym. Ben Franklin and many others had many pseudonyms.

  2. Will Killyou
    January 18, 2017 at 9:07 pm

    People get out anger because they are angry. In the USA for example many can not stand the pansy affirmative action types that float around today protected by government programs. A prime example would be the EEOC TYOE author of "6 Reasons Why You Should Stop Using Desktop Email Clients in Favour of Web-Based Options" and the pansy who wrote this article.

  3. Candy
    November 23, 2016 at 4:25 pm

    I think because people are angry and have no outlet in their daily life. Its the easiest way to get out repressed anger without accountability.

  4. Alice
    July 1, 2016 at 2:08 am

    I'm glad to see that people are noticing this, I make sure to never put anything hateful on the internet because it doesn't do any good. Everywhere I look I see hate and it completely outweighs the good side. I don't know in the case of another person but it's much easier for me to say something good instead of insulting something. In some cases, the world is just turning for the worst. Anyway, thanks for the good article.

  5. Dannywill7
    January 24, 2012 at 12:20 am

    What you are experiencing is the "dumb-ing" of America.  It is fueled by all the "reality" shows which pit everyone against everyone trying to make themselves higher on the food chain.  The DNA pool is draining fast...

  6. James Bruce
    January 23, 2012 at 9:56 am

    Excellent piece Ryan, and admitting (and publishing) examples from yourself must have taken a lot of courage. 

    Lots of advice I need to take note of here I think, thanks!

  7. Rowdy Rob
    January 21, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    The author of this article, Ryan Dube, is a moron... a withering pile of turkey puke.

    Just kidding!!!! :-)

    Despite my opening remarks (meant in jest!), I obviously don't enjoy the prevalence of trolling or flaming on the internet. But...

    I think this somewhat ties into the current SOPA controversy a bit. There is a serious problem with lack of civility in online "society," just as there is a problem with piracy. But as serious as the problem is, it seems that every conceivable way to try to stop it leads to a "Big Brother" style of unintended consequences or restrictive/destructive regulations that punishes innocent "civilians."

    "Trolling" is kind of like a virus. The more you try to stop it, the more entrenched and resistant certain strains become, until in the end you have a certain super-virulent strain that in the end becomes so dangerous that the "civilian" populace must be oppressed or repressed to protect them from the danger.   

    • Ryan Dube
      January 21, 2012 at 7:09 pm

      Haha - thanks Rob. You wouldn't believe how many times I've read comments with opening lines like that. :-) 

      Comes with the territory I suppose - especially if you write about controversial topics. I should have expected that when I started to write online years ago. 

      You're right about trolling being like a virus - and in that way the tone of many visitors tends to spread. On a site where most people are intelligent and thoughtful, you'll see a majority of comments tend to lean to that side (I'd like to think MUO is like that). On other sites that are less careful about the sort of comments they allow through, it's like a madhouse.

  8. jeanneg99
    January 21, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    Good gravy, the kid was only 13 years old. So he just measured voltage? PhDs have apparently been faking research on all sorts of things from vaccination studies to climate change, yet their "scientific community" dares to attack a 13 year old kid's science fair project?  Honestly....

    Anyway, as far as your points in the article go, Ryan, they are excellent. I try hard to keep the old adage of the 3 gates in mind when I write comments online: is it truthful? Kind? I can't remember the third but if I hit the first two, truth and kindness, I feel good to go. I never want to post anything that's going to rip someone's soul apart.  My own soul isn't worth it.

    • Ryan Dube
      January 21, 2012 at 7:10 pm

      I agree - and I've had to work on taking that a step further, beyond just comments but also into how I write articles. I've been known for ripping people apart in articles online, and over the years I've realized that doing so is no different than trolling in the comments area.  So, I like your litmus test - is it truthful, and is it kind. I've always focused too much on the first part and ignored the second, for the most part.

  9. Peter
    January 21, 2012 at 10:33 am

    Much the same with how people drive. Agressive, tailgating etc. You wouldn't walk behind a person and behave like that, much too personal. It seems any sort of barrier, be it metal or anonymity helps cowards.

    • Slywlf
      January 21, 2012 at 6:00 pm

      Exactly the point I was going to make. I wonder how many of the people who blast their horn, flip you off or even swerve in front of you to be nasty would do the same things if their face, name and home address was plastered across the back of their car, rather than an anonymous license plate?

  10. Sheila Warner
    January 21, 2012 at 7:34 am

    The politeness "filter" that people seem to have in the real world comes off with alarming regularity in the online world. The problem is, everyone has an opinion about everything and wants to come off as an expert.

  11. Chris Hoffman
    January 21, 2012 at 4:16 am

    I don't know if anonymity is really what people make it out to be. You should see some of the things people post on Facebook.

    I worked in retail when I was younger, and I've had customers curse me out and treat me like dirt -- I'm sure all retail employees have. Maybe the common factor is just a lack of consequences.

    You can't tell off your boss, but you can go online and curse out a random person or abuse a retail grunt that can't respond. Nothing bad will happen to you, and you get to let off steam.

  12. Xpatflipper
    January 20, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    I agree that this is an unfortunate aspect of some people's personality.....made all the more possible by the anonymity of the web.  But I don't think it's something that needs Federal regulation (as some people see to think).

    • Ryan Dube
      January 21, 2012 at 2:08 am

      I agree 100% - Federal regulation is not the answer.

  13. Zoltán Kelemen-Virág
    January 20, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    If you knew Hungarian you would find words like "moron" or "retarded" pretty motivating and lovingly formulated. Native Hungarian writers simply avoid such mediocre ways when it comes to humiliation. Try and write to Hungarian site even in English ;-)

  14. John Pendleton
    January 20, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    The trolls on reddit where 100% wrong about faster than light neutrino :P

  15. Manager
    January 20, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    I've been noticeing, after years with computers and the internet, that the WWW seems to be 'LOL' and 'WTF'. Also, 'LMFAO'... meaning the nets a joke to most people and these dating sites are also obviouly a joke to most people ever sence a few yrs ago or so back in 2008. Around there anyhow. THIS MAKES ME MAD! Is this the messed up future of the internet and it's general use!?!

  16. Guest
    January 20, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    Anonymity = no accountability

    You hit the nail on the head. The internet is a playground for so many.

    I have been guilty of this behavior too, and being attacked had sometimes brought the worst out in me (depending on the day and my mood at the time).

    The rule I live by now is if you wouldn't say it to the person's face in real life, don't say it online.

  17. Okie972
    January 20, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    My momma always told me, "If you don't have the balls to put your name on it, then you don't need to write it."  No kidding.  That was back in the day when people wrote letters to the editor.  Still holds true.

  18. Dave Parrack
    January 20, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    As a commenter I have never resorted to harsh words. I always try to treat people online as I do offline. But as a writer I have added sentences to articles in order to spark debate and then been called a troll or flamer for doing so. I guess that comes down to a personal view on the definition of these words. Debate is fun, bullying is not.

    • James Bruce
      January 23, 2012 at 9:54 am

      Sadly, I can't tolerate idiots in real life either, so treating them the same doesn't help me!

      • Dave Parrack
        January 24, 2012 at 8:53 am

        In real life I just back away slowly while smiling and nodding. The online equivalent is to ignore them, I guess :O

  19. Katie
    January 20, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    This was a great article, you are really right about how people are so "brave" to flame and troll as long as nobody knows who they are. Poor Aidan, I hope he proves them all wrong.

  20. Joel Lee
    January 20, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    Anonymity is #1, for sure. There's the cliche saying that continues to hold true: take any gentleman and put him behind the anonymity of the Internet and he'll eventually turn into an ass.

    In everyday life, social norms prevent us (well, most of us) from lashing out and truly speaking our minds. We have to pretend to be nice, we have to wear fake smiles, etc.

    When you're placed behind anonymous walls, it's almost therapeutic. You can unleash all of that pent up anger and frustration at people without having to face the consequences of your words.

    It's cowardice at its finest, but there's no way to stop without going Big Brother on the Internet.

    • Ryan Dube
      January 21, 2012 at 2:05 am

      Joel - that's true. I had a period where I tried to dish it back to such anonymous commentators thinking that would work. Sometimes it did, sometimes it didn't. 

      The problem with doing that, when you aren't anonymous, is that your name is tied to those nasty comments and you can develop a negative reputation for making those comments. 

      I think you're right, it's just an unfortunate consequence of the anonymity that the Internet offers and there's little we can do about it.

    • Tom
      September 26, 2017 at 1:42 pm

      The anonymity is spurious. If you know enough about computing and communications then many trolls can be tracked down. i.e. it is often possible to find the real name and real address of an on-line troll.

      The idiots that think it is "cool" to taunt strangers or to abuse them with foul language are playing a dangerous game. They should be very afraid. Not everyone that gets trolled is prepared to just take the insults or ignore them.

  21. Xavier Burgess
    January 20, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    I do believe you are right. From my experience, one of the main factors that go into such hateful speech is anonymity. The internet provides the PERFECT place for us to speak our opinions, no matter how shallow or pedantic or cruel they may be, because ultimately there are no real consequences for such behavior. 

    Going on what you said, if you were to say something cruel or hateful to someone on the internet, knowing full and well that you will probably never meet this person face to face, you would probably not feel about it. You would even think that you were right in saying whatever it is you said and not care what anyone thought about it. Because you don't have to worry about SEEING how you're pissing someone off or making someone feel bad, you may feel there are no real consequences. But taking to the same behavior with a person face to face however, does lead to consequences. Because you may have hurt another person's feelings, made someone feel bad, and you get to see the results of your cruel words. 

    • Ryan Dube
      January 21, 2012 at 2:00 am

      Good points Xanvier - you hit the nail on the head. It's the lack of consequences that make people feel that they really have nothing to lose for being so cruel to others in their comments.