Windows 8: A Review From A Linux User’s Perspective

windows 8 logo   Windows 8: A Review From A Linux Users PerspectiveIt has been a few months since Windows 8 came out, so a lot of enthusiasts have messed around with it and found out what it’s all about. Many people have feared that Windows 8 would be an entirely new experience, and that our traditional workflow would be disrupted. Some people have even claimed that Windows 8 may cause them to abandon the operating system family and switch to Linux so that they can run up to date code without upgrading Windows. However, is any of this really the case?

I bought a copy of Windows 8 Pro to try for myself to reach some answers on my own. With answers in hand, I give you a review of the new operating system from a Linux user’s perspective.

Interface

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One of the biggest complaints about Windows 8 is the new interface, or specifically the Start Screen. It scares a lot of people, but it’s easy to figure out after a bit of fiddling. Windows 8 introduces two different kinds of applications — your legacy programs that you’ve always used, and the new Windows 8 apps, which run full screen. This split allows you to use your computer in two different ways, or mix the two for a custom experience. If you want to remain on the traditional desktop, just avoid the Windows Store and install your applications as usual. You can find all of your applications in the Start Screen, which you can arrange however you want. In my opinion, the functionality of the Start Button is still there. You’ll just need to use the Windows key on your keyboard more often rather than gravitating to where the Start Button used to be. Worst case scenario, you can always get the Start Button back.

The new interface seems pretty different compared to traditional conventions, but I do think that people will grow to like it. People simply need to adjust to the slight changes when it comes to the Start Screen — everything else is essentially the same. It was a similar story for the Unity desktop interface on Ubuntu. After it was improved and bugs were fixed, more and more people started to like it.

Besides the interface and performance changes, there isn’t too much to tout about that immediately affects everyone. Windows 8 packs new multi-monitor support, a new task manager, and some Windows Explorer improvements. These improvements are fine (even if you don’t like those applied to Windows Explorer), but they don’t add any extra value compared to Linux. Multi-monitor support has already been decent (excluding the poorer quality of the graphics drivers), the task manager has always been informative, powerful, and visually appealing, and Nautilus/Dolphin have continuous refinements added to them.

Performance

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Performance is another important aspect of the new operating system. It has definitely improved when compared to Windows 7, and the quicker startup times from the hibernated kernel. However, I believe Linux operating systems are still faster. They take the same time or less to boot from an unhibernated kernel, and runtime performance is also noticeably smoother. The only measurable improvements that Windows brings comes from the better graphics drivers while playing games. Linux is still more resource efficient as well, using quite a bit less RAM even with the full, relatively memory-hogging Ubuntu experience.

Storage

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Some people may enjoy Windows 8’s new Storage Spaces feature. It allows people to combine multiple hard drives into one drive that appears in My Computer. Windows then uses all of the space that you configured across all hard drives, and you just continue using your system without worries. Linux has been doing this successfully for quite a while with LVM, and the imminent stable release of Btrfs will provide a modern replacement for the technology at a file-system level. Both LVM and Btrfs are easily configurable during installation or via utilities inside the operating system.

Battery Life

Another important factor is battery life. Windows continues to provide strong battery life, but Linux has always been touted as excellent in this category because of its high efficiency. Despite what people have said, my old computer always had a slightly better battery life under Windows, but with my new laptop, the tables have turned. I’ve noticed that Windows 8 keeps my laptop rather busy, so that the fan repeatedly turns on for a few moments to get rid of some hot air, something that doesn’t happen under Linux. I hate trying to give out statistics for something like battery life because it always changes, and depends on the software that you install.

Security

Security is the final issue where Windows 8 has made some strides. It has implemented Windows Defender deep into the operating system, as well as some anti-virus precautions. However, it is still extremely vulnerable and an anti-virus solution is highly advisable. Under Linux, this isn’t the case — there isn’t any threat of viruses, and a tight firewall will keep out any potential hackers.

Conclusion

Overall, I don’t really see a lot of issues with Windows 8. There are improvements all across the board, and the only major complaint, the new interface, is something that only takes an hour of getting used to. Once I played around with it for a while, I felt comfortable using it. Yes, it was new, and people don’t like change, but there really isn’t much of a difference. Just take a deep breath and think logically. When compared to Linux, Windows 8 is showing a lot of similar struggles in the interface department, but otherwise they both have pros and cons. I still prefer Linux over Windows, but for people who wouldn’t dare switch away from Windows or who rely on Windows-only software, I have no problem recommending Windows 8. As for those still considering Linux, here’s some help on making Linux a Windows replacement.

What do you think of Windows 8? How do you think it stacks up to Linux? Are you running it right now? Let us know in the comments!

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Donovan

I think their is potential for 8, but then again this is Microsoft, king of ‘well that went downhill fast’. And while I can’t fault them for trying to focus on tablets, it all just seems too cartoony for serious office work.

Also I think what matters too is the version of windows you install, going from XP to the 7* my mom bought off HSN was irritating because it came loaded with so much junkware, where as the new comp I just got came with a nicely minimalist pro edition.

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David

I can’t remember the source right now, but google should bring it up. Microsoft Windows is indisputably king on the desktop (towers/laptops, etc.) When you expand it to include mobile platforms (Caddys, phones, routers, TVs, and more), Linux (and Android specifically) has a 40% market share, and Microsoft Windows has only a 20% market share.

If the trend is away from the desktop toward mobile systems (tablets, phones, plus appliances), Microsoft will continue to have a declining market share. That is why they are panicking about Microsoft Office, and trying to push a continual subscription model.

LibreOffice and OpenOffice are not quite up to the task of replacing Microsoft Office if you make use of (sorry!) some of the more advanced features. If you are starting from scratch, and are generally only exchanging files in the organization with other LibreOffice users, you’ll be fine.

Some conferences use only open source submissions. The SCaLE 11x requested all submissions to be in non-encumbered formats (read, not Microsoft Powerpoint.)

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Danny Stieben

And the fact that it’s simply different is also a turn-off for plenty of businesses/enterprises.

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Yang Yang Li

Fun piece to read because it offers a new perspective on Windows 8. When Microsoft allows more Xbox games to run on Windows, I will jump on. Even then, I will still keep Windows 7 for productivity. 8 just doesn’t seems serious enough for business.

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Arshad Hasan

I tried Xubuntu but then switched back to windows 8. Its difficult to survive without office (2013) .

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Gotestra

Have you tried out LibreOfiice? I used it on Windows, and now I’m using it on Fedora. I find it to be sufficient for my needs.

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Arshad Hasan

yea but i think nothing comes even close to office (just my opinion). though i never gave a chance to other alternatives

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SB

How can you compare something you haven’t tried?

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Arshad Hasan

I once installed LibreOffice on Ubuntu and didn’t like the interface. Maybe because I am used to the office interface.

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Danny Stieben

LibreOffice is good enough for a large portion of possible work, but I have to admit that Office is still capable of more. I know from some of the classes I have to take at my university.

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Zaam Mohamed

Nice Article but always my friends are Arguing with me like windows is a most Powerful OS and User Friendly. how can i argue em :(

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Gotestra

Don’t bother. Somebody who says that Windows is “the most powerful OS” doesn’t deserve a chance to know how wrong he/she is.

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Anant Malik

Windows = Xtreme gaming.
Windows = Microsoft Office = No other suite contains features anywhere near Microsoft Office.

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Gotestra

LibreOffice is open source and freely developed, and even so it serves to be a pretty decent alternative to MS Office.

Windows and Mac OSX is better for the general populace who want an easy-to-use computer right out of the box to browse the web, check their email, play video games and maybe create some presentations and documents. However, Windows doesn’t offer 10% as much as power as does distros like Linux Mint.

(And I sited Linux Mint as an example because a Windows user can easily use Linux Mint as well. Even so, Linux Mint is more powerful.)

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Arshad Hasan

Why would I need windows-alternative if it provides me with everything I want – mail,web,video,office ?

Don’t tell me because windows isn’t free.

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shuvarek

@ Arshad Hasan
Do you mean free as a free beer, or free as a freedom?
I tell you why I stopped using Windows: First on old desktop – too many problems with wi-fi, first I have to download drivers (of course using liveCD linux), but then I have to use antiviris which make this computer very slow. Too much hastle, better install this liveCD.
On ‘new’ netbook: writing on office so slow that I cannot see letters which I type, can’t use it, again reinstall Linux.

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Gotestra

@Arshad

Well, you wouldn’t. In my opinion, it all comes down to what the user wants. There is no absolute scale to judge Linux, Windows and Mac OSX. If Windows suits an ordinary user’s taste and work, then he/she doesn’t need anything else.

My original argument was that calling Windows to be “the most powerful OS” is dumb, because Windows is far from the most powerful. An average Linux user has thrice as much as power, in the true sense of the term.

That doesn’t necessarily make Linux the best. “Best” is relative to perspective. If Windows does the job better than Linux, then Windows is the “best” for him/her.

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Chris C

If by ‘powerful’ they mean resource efficient, then ask them how many of the top 500 supercomputers run windows. The answer is none. When it comes to user friendliness, that depends on the user, power users find that changing any settings on Windows is much more time consuming than on Linux.

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Yiz Borol

If fact I don’t thinks there is a single supercomputer that runs ANY consumer OS, mostly because they’re not designed for it. SO that’s not really any comparison.

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dragonmouth

According to Wikimedia, as of November 2011, 457 of the 500 world’s fastest supercomputers use Linux. Granted that it is not an everyday version of Ubuntu or Mint. It is customized by removing any and all non-essential modules (Office suite, language packs, printer drivers, GUI, etc.) in the same manner that Linux used on servers is customized. Supercomputers used to use proprietary operating system specifically developed inhouse for each particular machine. But it was found that an off-the-shelf operating system such as Linux, BSD or Unix is more efficient and much more cost effective.

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Danny Stieben

It wouldn’t be a consumer version of Windows, but at least some sort of Server Edition. Either way, it still takes up valuable system resources.

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robert

I’m really liking Windows 8. I’m glad they got rid of the aero look of the desktop for me it was too gaudy the new desktop is clean and polished. The performance improvements are impressive. I was afraid that there would be a bad adjustment period getting used to the start screen from all the reviews but after an hour or so I felt right at home. With the minimalist look and flat colors as opposed to aeros shiny gaudy looks I think it could easily look more “serious” than xp or 7 it just depends of course on what backgrounds and such you put on it.

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Lisa Santika Onggrid

Actually I like Aero. Metro seems too bright and gaudy to me. You’re right, however. We can definitely change the looks depending on our setup.

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Danny Stieben

I have a feeling that some of those performance improvements came from the removal of Aero.

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Alan Wade

I had a lot of issues with it in the beginning with the ‘Cannot get Used To It’ attitude. I tried three times on dual booting and then going back to just using Windows 7 until I re-installed it and deleted my Win 7 image backups so that I had to give it a fair chance or re-install everything again.
After a lot of customizing to get it the way I want it, I have had a complete change of heart over my impressions of it and really like Windows 8 now.

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Tug R

I had the same experience as you. At first, it was kind of frustrating, but that’s only because it was new. Any type of change can be a bit scary, but time has shown me that Windows 8 is an excellent and capable OS.

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Danny Stieben

I like this. Even though I’m pro-Linux, I want everyone to have an open mind. If they do, this is possible.

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Gotestra

I tried out Windows 8 with a dual boot mere days after its release. I found it to be pretty easy easy to use, and faced no difficulty without a start menu. The performance increase was a big win for me, because my laptop is somewhat old. Only thing that bugged me was the lack of proper options for visual customization. I used Windows 7 with transparency just fine without any issues, so I wanted true transparency on 8 as well. I was pretty surprised when I couldn’t find the option to turn transparency on in the Control Panel. Google came up with the answer that MS had it removed from 8 to improve performance.

Recently, I made the switch to Linux. And by recent, I mean fairly recent, like a month ago. I’m using Fedora 18 with Cinnamon as my DE. To be honest, I don’t want to switch back to Windows anymore. There is a certain satisfaction in using open-source software instead of alternative paid solutions i.e Windows. Using Linux offers a huge learning curve, which is something I like about it. I ran into tons of issues in the beginning, but I got around to solving them eventually with the help of people from #fedora on Freenode, as well as Google and ask.fedoraproject.org.

All in all, my verdict would be that Windows is better for a general user. The GUI is easier to understand, the number of programs available for it is larger, support is abundant in comparison to any Linux distro’s support and it works brilliantly right out of the box. For more power users, Linux is the way to go.

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Danny Stieben

Great comparison! I definitely have to agree with what you said. Plus, Linux keeps getting better and better, so the issues and learning curves will slowly go away for those who aren’t too tech savvy.

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Anish P

What about the OSX? Win 8 has also been one of the reason many people have been switching to buying Macs. Hands down, Linux is probably the best and most efficient but that comes with a caveat. You need to know how to customize your computer for efficiency. The average user frankly doesn’t have time to tweak this or mod that – they just want to use the internet, check e-mail and maybe create some documents/presentations.

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Anant Malik

Apple = Slightly tweak and name it a new OS. :D Resulting in 18 OSes in total. :D Market Share = Apple says don’t ask ( with a sob :'( on its face ) :D

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David

The individual updates for each of the operating systems you mention are more like security rollups in Microsoft Windows, only you get them more often. When a new OS release come out, it is free from Digital Restrictions Management. You can’t say that about Redmond, although they have more to lose from piracy.

I do consider each of the OS versions to be discrete, and they are still usable, even if your hardware is unable to update to the latest version.

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Anish P

For OSX, it’s more than slight tweaks between OS releases and it’s not 18 OSes. If you ask any average computer to choose between mac and linux, they’re going to choose OSX. The power user will obviously lean towards linux, but the general consensus will be towards the mac. The same argument can be made with windows and linux. Linux is just not that mainstream and people don’t care to use Linux when they have Windows or OSX.

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Anant Malik

Linux = Drinx battery like a soft-drink :D Very EFFICIENT :D

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Kristofffffer

Oem’s and hardware manufacturers tend to not love Linux. But if you take a look at the Chromebook you will notice that you statement is not accurate if applied on a platform made with Linux in mind.

TLDR; Big company’s don’t like to share their work with the open source community. Hence it’s hard to make power efficient laptops on Linux.

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Anish P

Drinking battery like a soft-drink, whatever that means, is only possible if you have the time and ability to make the necessary tweaks. The average consumer doesn’t want to deal with this. And so, they choose Win or OSX to handle the battery settings while they use the computer for other tasks. Again, not saying one is better than the other, but just that a majority doesn’t really want to deal with linux.

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Lisa Santika Onggrid

Most wouldn’t give other OS any chance once they’ve found a comfortable zone. Not that this is bad anyway. It depends on your productivity. Why change if you can do everything you need as it’s right now?

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Danny Stieben

The newest Linux distributions don’t need much tweaking at all. It can work out of the box. The difference here is Linux is free, Macs cost a lot of money (new hardware and software).

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Anomaly

Lets see how you feel when MS removes the legacy desktop and all you have is the new Metro/modern/ immersive, UI or what ever they are calling the garbage this week.

Like most reviewers you miss the big problem with Windows 8. That is the attempt by Microsoft to lock you in to an app store. Excepting Windows 8 is giving the clowns at MS the green light to lock down Windows. Very stupid thing to be doing. Everybody should be rejecting Windows 8 big time and sending the message to MS that their attempts at this are not going to work.

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Danny Stieben

We’re locked in to the app store? As long as the legacy desktop is still there, that’s false. And Microsoft would be insane to take it away — not a single business would adopt that.

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prasanth vikkath

I prefer Windows but Linux is my favorite. I know there are more software options for linux when comparing to Windows, but for professionals who will be doing the same job every day and uses the same soft for their works, won’t be thinking about trying a new soft even for an experiment or fun. They won’t be able to adopt to new environment and options of Linux. I have to say Linux is the best I ever used

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Réy Aétar

people would stop arguing if they got all those bad things of windows mentioned above for free ;)
still who cares as long as i get my work done :D

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Noman Fayez

w7 and w8 have same carnel …. Microsoft should introduce this windows 8 new advantages to windows 7 SP2…..except the funny Mtro UI … windows aero peak view is awosome it should not be removed by MS in w8… but they did … how many retail copy of w8 sold? how many anytime upgrade? all the sale of this funny w8 are sold in OEM channel… it would also happen in w7 instead of w8 if there was no w8…. MS should take 5~7years++ to inroduce a new OS

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Alan Wade

So many individual points of view. And it is healthy to have a point of view.
Whats even more comforting is the fact that none of writers of the more obscure points of view work for Microsoft or we could be in big trouble!

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Harindu Mohottala

From what i understand, Windows 8 is designed to smoothly shift users to the laptop/tablet hybrid or just the tablet interface for that matter.. i have tried windows 8, it is a pretty well designed OS and the ui is great. but i’m a Linux user i have a nice and smooth KDE ui on Ubuntu.. and that’s all i need for now.
All i know is when everyone do move on to touch interfaces like the one in windows 8 home screen.. Linux will be there with Plasma Active and Ubuntu touch.. so there’ll always be different choices for different people..

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Bruce W. Fowler

IMHO the primary difference between W8 and Linux (e.g., Ubuntu) is that in Ubuntu one can replace Unity with a more conventional, and perhaps utile, GUI like XFCE or KDE, with three command line entries – four if you want to discard Unity whereas in W8, one is stuck with the tile GUI. I fear that tile GUI works fine on smartphones, adequately on tablets, and not at all on desk and laptops if one works cumulatively rather than sequentially. For these people being stuck with a tile GUI on the desk/laptop is a form of torture.

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Fredrik Hansson

You’re wrong. With hust a few mouse clicks you can install Classic Shell and have the same start meny as Windows 7, or XP or anything of the many other free programs out there providing a startmeny replacement. To say that you are stuck into a GUI with Windows is just a lack of understanding of the operating system. There is tones of customizations available for Windows desktop both free and not. You can install themes and replacements of nearly anything. Just look around and see instead of just banging something you don’t know.

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Bruce W. Fowler

Thanks, Ferd.

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David Paige

I do take issue with some of the comments in this article. Hyperbole is always a bad thing to use. (I guess that’s hyperbole, isn’t it??) A tight firewall will not keep out all hackers, but it’s a good thing to have . APTs have ways of getting into a system and communicating through a properly configured firewall. There are ways to bypass both firewalls and intrusion detection systems.

I also disagree with those who say that linux is immune to viruses. One of the first worms was created on Unix. It is true to say that the threat to Linux is much less than to Microsoft Windows, but there are cross-platform infections out there, and it is still possible to download a trojan .deb or .rpm, and your system is toast.

Finally, if Linux were really immune, there would be no need for root kit checkers on Linux.

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Lisa Santika Onggrid

It’s a common misconception, really. Less vulnerable doesn’t mean invincible.

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Zhong Jiang

I have both Windows 8 and Debian installed on my ultra-badass laptop, Windows 8 is cool due to the fact that they introduce something knew (nobody superbly liked it) but I kinda liked the change they make. For example, the concept of integrating both a tablet and desktop environment is awesome. Ubuntu has an app store called UbuntuOne and Windows Store is also implemented in this version. Since I’m a die hard fan of Debian, I won’t let that get over my head and since Wheezy is coming soon, I’ll be waiting for that, let’s hope Windows Blue will be much “prettier”

What I don’t like about Windows 8 is honestly, switching between the metro version and desktop one. MIcrosoft should just set out a preference on which of the environment we should choose to boot first. It’s dull confusing on why they can’t replace the start menu where you can easily navigate through hordes of options. But generally, I like to keep the best of both worlds and since I obtain Windows 8 from my school, there are no complaints.

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Richard

I run and try just about any OS that comes out. windows 8 did take some learning curve time to get used to the ‘Start Screen’ but I still see absolutely no value or benefit in it if yo have a traditional NON-Touch monitor. Touch screen displays are not mainstream yet even though you can see now today, some representations in most electronic stores. In light of this fact, the ‘Start Screen’ as I see it has some benefit only utilized by touch screens, phones or tablets but not as an upgrade on your traditional desktop. I don’t use it on my desktop and find myself only going to the ‘Start Screen’ out of some curiosity or if I forget what it looked like.

There are ‘Start Menu’ replacements but all have there pros and cons and none of them I have seen are perfect in terms of getting back to what your used to using with a mouse input. One can’t be turned off easily and another removes the ‘Start Screen’ so you can never get back to it.

All of this though would not and does not prevent me from using Windows 8 nor does it compelled me to upgrade any machine to it unless until support for Windows 7 is discontinued.

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Rudi Niemand

I still don’t understand why after a couple of decades of essentially ‘training’ people how to get comfortable with their desktop environment with a keyboard and mouse and how everything works around it Microsoft just chucks this whole new concept of a touch interface-derived design. Don’t get me wrong, it’s wonderful in how it looks and it works beautifully on the likes of mobile phones that run Windows Phone, but desktop computers should remain ‘desktop’ computers, meaning: a mouse and keyboard is always going to be there as long as the computer is based at a desk. I really think they should give the option at install/setup whether you would prefer a default setting of the new start screen or the classic desktop.

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Fredrik Hansson

Install Classic shell and your problems will dissapear!

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Ebenezer

In my own part of the world, window product is more popular. From their OS to microsoft office, so switching to window 8 will be readily acceptable

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hotdoge3

not Like it, http://koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2013/03/133_131743.html

A senior Samsung Electronics executive said Friday the launch of Windows 8 has failed to bolster demand for PCs and he does not expect the PC industry to rebound soon.

”The global PC industry is steadily shrinking despite the launch of Windows 8. I think the Windows 8 system is no better than the previous Windows Vista platform,’’ said Jun Dong-soo, president of Samsung’s memory chip division, in a meeting with reporters at the COEX InterContinental Hotel in Seoul, Friday.

The executive stressed there was no expected boost to PC sales due to the failure of the Windows 8 platform and forecast the PC industry would gradually phase out.

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dragonmouth

Considering that Samsung is big in smart phones and tablets, I would not expect a senior Samsung executive to say anything different.

Pundits and various know-it-alls have been predicting the demise of the mainframe since the early 1970s, yet they are still with us. Neither PCs nor mainframes will disappear any time soon. There are jobs that can only be done by mainframes and PCs.

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hotdoge3

http://www.zdnet.com/are-oems-to-blame-for-poor-windows-8-holiday-sales-7000010278/

Are OEMs to blame for poor Windows 8 holiday sales?
Summary: One report suggests that Microsoft is frustrated with major OEMs, claiming they didn’t build enough touch systems. But did OEMs really have much wriggle room to take risks?
But another source hit back at Microsoft, claiming that the OEMs “couldn’t afford to make lots of product, lots of high-priced touch,” because while “people would look at nice high-end products,” they would ultimately end up buying a budget device.
or get a mac iPad you know it good

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/24/windows_8_blame_game/

Microsoft blasts PC makers: It’s YOUR fault Windows 8 crash landed
Slab builders ignored Redmond, claims Reg source
But the computer makers are fighting back: they claimed that if they’d followed Microsoft’s hardware requirements and ramped up production, they’d have ended up building a lot of high-end expensive slabs that consumers didn’t understand nor want.
Badge of honour: Vista revisited
One recent example is the notorious “Windows Vista Premium Ready” and “Windows Vista Premium Capable” badges. That programme landed Microsoft with a lawsuit as litigants claimed Microsoft misled them on what “capable” meant. It emerged Microsoft had played fast and loose with its own rules to help Intel, classifying PCs as capable when they weren’t.
You can see the Vista specs here.
We couldn’t afford to make lots of product, lots of high-priced touch’
PC makers, though, are hitting back after Redmond’s finger-pointing – countering that if they’d followed Microsoft’s advice they’d have ended up building very expensive tablets and would have been saddled with the costs of a huge piles of unsold units. Those who did buy Windows 8 PCs ultimately bought the cheap laptops not high-end Ultrabooks or hybrids.
One Reg source told us Microsoft isn’t blaming OEMs publicly, but doing so in private in meetings assisted with PowerPoint presentations. “There was a big debate, and we said: ‘It’s not like that.’ We couldn’t afford to make lots of product, lots of high-priced touch. We found people would look at nice high-end products and buy £299 devices instead,” the contact said.
Microsoft may be planning a February “re-launch” of Windows 8.

not as good as Vista it did sell ok

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techguyknows

I feel that Linux is much better. Save all the hassle and focus on your work. The task that you really need to do, rather than fiddling around with Windows 8, which is definitely meaningless.

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Lisa Santika Onggrid

I was afraid to see heavily biased review despite not being fan of Win8 myself, but you do a good job. It’s a fair review and everything you complained about was the same as common users. Maybe time to do OSX next?

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SRChiP

I actually hated Windows 8, but got used to it now. My biggest problem is that the charms bar don’t work properly sometimes. It gets stuck.

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Gunni Joð

At first I disliked Windows…or rather I hated it with a vengeance. However, after a few weeks it really grew on me after some twiddling and browsing.

I belong to the minority (it seems) that actually likes this OS, plus it has been a hazzle free experience…just sayin’.

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Noah A

I experienced similar performance with Ubuntu and Windows 8.

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yehuda blonder

The Entire thing about Windows 8
Okay! Here I go off about Windows 8!

I bought my laptop in June and they said when I bought it that I would be able to Upgrade my laptop to Windows 8 for $14.99. so I did it. When Windows 8 came out everyone said that it’s a great Operating System, so i decided to upgrade my laptop. When i first upgraded it was so annoying, because there is no start button, so i got so frustrated, but i was able to find a way to get a start button and then everything was getting much easier. One day my laptop started getting very very slow, so I had to call up my laptop company for them to try to help me fix it which they weren’t able to fix it over the phone. And then all of the sudden all of my information was getting lost and not working, so i called the company back and had to get all the way up to a case manager which i was hoping for them to get me a new laptop, because it was the second time my laptop was broken in the summer. But the case manager was telling me that i have to downgrade to Windows 7, so i had to get my recovery discs and start doing it, but it stopped in the middle of doing it, so i called my case manager tells me that i have to send my laptop in for repair. Oh and then he tells me that my computer wasn’t made for Windows 8 which i told him that it was, because that was part of the package when i bought my laptop in June.

Basically what i’m trying to say is that Windows 8 SUCKS AND I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND IT TO ANYONE!!!!! Windows 8 is really meant for a tablet and a touchscreen computer/laptop. NO ONE SHOULD BUY WINDOWS 8!!!!!!!!

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Jonathan

Sounds more like your OEM sucks than Windows 8. Buy from a solid manufacturer next time.

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Eamon Caruth

Windows 8 is the most frustrating crock of an operating system that I have ever dealt with. I am a developer and have been working with windows since 3.1 and I have given Windows 8 a go for the last six weeks. I would rather spend a month in a confined space with a dodgy mother-in-law than suffer windows 8 for another week. This is yet another example of Microsoft ignoring the old saying “if it’s not broken, don’t fix it”. Clearly there’s too many guys there trying to justify their salary – quite a dilemma I’m sure but please don’t mess it up for those loyal Microsoft users.

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Clyde Atwood

I bought W8 to help my sister, and being a geek, I thought the new start was cool. I’m not all that worried about the interface, because growing up in DOS, then Windows, then Linux, it is just a different feel. Those that don’t like it, sorry.

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Nevzat A

I generally like Windows 8, but some weird issues prevents me enjoying it. I get no notification and automount of any usb drives, I can’t use my old gamepad which had no issues on Windows 7, and no flash on metro UI drives me mad! I hope Windows Blue solves them.

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Sam

My first day using Windows 8 was yesterday, on a laptop, and you failed to mention my #1 complaint:

BY DEFAULT, Microsoft decided to consider moving the mouse from left to right a certain distance (but not all the way across the pad) as “swiping”, indicating you wanted to change apps. This made it extremely difficult for me to navigate around the screen; I finally Googled it and found the right place to change the setting.

Also, you mentioned Hibernation, but that is turned off by default; you have to know exactly where to go to enable Hibernate mode. It’s also more difficult to get to the restart/shut down/sleep options; Microsoft’s own help page says there aren’t really good reasons why you should do these operations so they are buried. They apparently don’t know Sleep mode still does slowly drain your battery. Quite ironically, later on that same day, my first day using the laptop, Windows said I had to restart my computer for changes to take effect…so they still do require it, they just made it harder to do on your own.

There are free third party programs that can bring back a “start menu”–for me, the main reasons to do so are (1) the search for programs is more conveniently located (Windows key then start typing), and (2) much more convenient shut down options.

This was all about ease for Microsoft, not the user; they only want one user interface, and are probably hoping it will boost their mobile phone sales if they get users used to it. Problem is, I use my laptop for very different tasks than I use a mobile phone for, and I do not consider a touchpad mouse on a laptop as a method to change programs that makes it difficult to navigate the entire screen space of the current program. Yesterday was frustrating…perhaps third party programs will save the day — but regardless, I plan on doing a dual boot to test Linux on my new hardware…and if that goes smoothly, I may just ditch Windows completely.

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Pete

I simply use: email, Internet browser, password keeper, spreadsheept, word processing, and wine for a few things. So Linux for free is a great choice.

I did try Windows 8 (it came on the machine) and felt positively insulted at pushing me to web mail and taking the start button away. As for metro, it stupidly listed every small command in a button of my programs with multiple options. God. What a mess.

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th

re virus point-

yes there are a lot more viruses for windows than linux, however this does not mean that an av has no place on a linux install. For a file/email server it certainly helps, also helps to run an av so you dont accidentally copy the (dormant) virus from a linux box onto someones windows install. A massive problem that I see is the masses believing that linux is somehow immune to viruses (encompassing worms, social engeneering, rootkits, malware, trialware etc etc), donwloading random .rpm’s and scripts from the web (when they should be using the repos…) and complaining why their system is bricked.

So in short: Linux is (much) less prone to viruses because it doesn’t run windows .exe files without wine, files have to become executables to run/install and the low market share , meaning that the probability of a successfull linux virus moving from one machine to the other is unlikely.

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Sueska

Thanks Danny for another insightful article.
Started out with a dual boot Win 7/ Win 8 desktop and found that I was not using it enough to learn Windows 8.
Last week purchased a low dollar Win 8 laptop, watched a few tutorials, and in hours found Windows 8 to be easy. The key for me was to make Windows 8 my primary machine for a few days. Now sold on it and willing to teach others. (I’m a multi-OS user of Linux, Mac, and Windows systems)
Cheers,

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Fredrik Hansson

What grass have you smoked? Better startup, graphic drivers and battery life in Linux?? Mate, I installed Windows 8 on a Acer Aspire One netbook (Intel Atom 1,6GHz, 2 Gb RAM, GMA965, X-25 SSD) which I used to run Linux mint on and the perfomance was definately better in Windows 8. Startup (from start to desktop) dropped from 40s to 25s. Battery life increased 30 minutes with Windows 8 after som tweaking with settings. And to say graphics drivers are better in Linux is just a big joke. I could hardly play 360p videos in Linux when CPU ran up to 100% and sound started stuttering. In Windows 8 I can play 480p in fullscreen with CPU staying at 70%. The desktop of Linux Mint felt a bit sluggish but Windows 8 just fly without any staggering. It feels like a new computer after swithching to Windows 8.

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Azarel

I’ve been dual booting Win8 and Ubuntu (12.10 & 13.04 since it’s release) for six months now. And while I have to admit so far as gaming goes that windows wins (although I’m loving Steam on Linux :D ) I’ve spent 80%+ of my time on Ubuntu (running Unity, loved it since it appeared in 11.04) and this is doing UNI work. So a lot of my documents have been in the .doc format. One of the only things that’s bridged the gap for me (funnily enough another Microsoft technology) is Office 365. It’s a forward thinking smart move for the Office team cause it should ensure the survival of Office even if Windows dies out in the new mobile era. :P And for those saying LibreOffice is a decent replacement for Office then…… I challange you to try opening a document with something as simple as tables in it in LibreOffice and see how you go… :| (in a format compatable with Office for the record.) Even better edit the document, save, and open it in Office. :| Watch mayhem decend. Within the ODT standard and passing documents between other LibreOffice users it’s not an issue. :) But in the real world……

Whilst decrying Windows death I must say that Windows 8 has got to be the most inovoative OS from Microsoft since XP or even 95. :P User backlash against the windows button is just ignorant. As a “power user” I found very little difference between Windows 8 and 7. (my keyboard hasn’t changed people) And if I had a touch screen I’d use the extra apps that are being provided by the Windows Store. :) That’s more got to do with being able to afford a new computer but…. as it is I still make regular trips to the mail and calander apps when I’m in windows. :) But speed really is the main issue. Even with the startup reduction in Ubuntu caused by a slow Nvidia driver load. Windows 8 is rediculously slow. At least 3 minutes to startup as opposed to around 1-2 (without Nvidia driver it’s about 30 seconds) and that’s including login time on Ubuntu, there’s another minute or so until the desktop is usable in Win8 on top of the times listed. (with antivirus installed)

Anyway I’m one of the few IT “professionals” (and students for that matter) in my circles that likes Win8 everyone else goes “it’s to cartoonish”. ???? Seriously it’s called informative and dynamic you can’t do live tiles without the surface area to display information. :| Although my ultimate interface would involve micro apps that embed there interface into expanding (iOS folder type expanding) areas onto the home screen. I’ll have to do a mockup at some point and see how many people go “hey that’s cool”. :P Hard to explain any other way.

Funny thing is this Windows 8 lover is moving to Ubuntu on a more permanent basis. :) Funny world we live in. :D But I can’t get the customizability of Linux in Windows (not a surprise really). :D And that right there is (interestingly) the reason I chose WP8 for my phone. Funny old world we live in. :D But there you go. Next phone however? Ubuntu Phone, fingers crossed! :D

My one and only bug bear as a new Ubuntu USER as opposed to Visitor is CCSM can’t live with it, can’t live without it. :| WTH hell do I do. I need CCSM for window Placing but…. it crashes Unity and only some trickery at the commandline resetting Unity and CCSM can get it to start back again. Once you get it back though your fine. :P Done this on two seperate installs of Ubuntu within a week of each other. :| Ah well….. :)