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Last week we asked you what do you think about the Facebook phone concept What Do You Think Of A Facebook Phone? [MakeUseOf Poll] What Do You Think Of A Facebook Phone? [MakeUseOf Poll] There are many rumors going around regarding the alleged release of a Facebook Phone. While this phone will probably provide a similar experience to the one we already know, it should provide tight Facebook integration,... Read More . The results were not positive to say the least, and it seems Facebook has some serious thinking to do before it actually comes out with such a product.

Out of a total of 205 votes, 55% think the Facebook phone is a dumb idea, 22% think it’s simply unnecessary, 14% don’t care either way, 5% want to see it before deciding, and only 3% think it’s a great idea and are waiting for it.

Full results and this week’s poll after the jump.


This week’s poll question is: What Do You Think Of The New MacBook Pro?

The biggest news in the tech world this week was without a doubt the launch of the new MacBook Pro. While this new addition to the MacBook family is impressive, not everyone agrees about its superiority. The New Pro starts at $2200, and comes with a glued on battery and soldered on RAM, which makes it much harder to fix and upgrade. It also comes with Retina display on its 15 inch monitor, which means staggeringly high resolution, and possibly some amazing visual features. So what do you think of this new Apple feat? Worth every penny, or an expensive much ado about nothing?


What features do you especially like in the new MacBook Pro? What features do you think are the worst? What will make you buy it or prevent you from paying $2200 for it? Tell us all in the comments.

  1. simmetyl
    August 31, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    I do not understand why everybody comes on here to fight. The post was a simple 'multiple' question. It's not about being a Mac user, or Windows user. Open your minds people. My question to you is this: Is it a fine computer on the market? Forget everything about cost. Besides, avoiding user stereotypes, is not a Mac user typically focused on a different skill set than a Windows user? Why do people come on here just to bash an Apple product or a Windows product. Do not even say that you are just giving pros and cons. It all just ends up in a massive blowout between2 or more folk.

  2. Chris Snyder
    June 24, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    I find the comments on price very interesting and believe I have been around long enough to provide a somewhat different perspective. Price truly is relative but only to the times. In the mid 80's I purchased an Apple IIe with 2 floppy drives, amber monitor and an Epson 80 character dot-matrix printer to run a small sports store for $3,500 US. I made that purchase based on the POS software that was available at the time.

    $3,500 bucks, no idea what that translates to in today's dollars, but I assure you I would not spend that amount today. ( I might add I paid extra to add 64kb, yes you read that right Kb, and a 300 baud modem, 1200 baud were "insanely" priced ) Luckily I would not have to spend that amount as computer technology has dropped dramatically against "tech for the buck". I find it utterly amazing what $2,500 can buy today.

    It doesn't matter whether I need a 512gb SSD drive or 8/16gb of RAM or Retina Display or USB 3 or Thunderbolt or even that it's in a package that weighs less than five pounds, the point is ... It exists. It technologically exits; I you we, can purchase it today. I find the technology and price incredible!

    Relative to today of course :-)


    • Yaara Lancet
      June 25, 2012 at 6:07 am

      Thanks for providing a positive point of view on things, I love it. :)

      It's nice to remember that it's great to have all this awesome technology, and even $2000 is really not that much for what you're actually getting.

      I remember having an old Mac at home (I was too young to know the exact model) with a 4MB hard drive. Who knows how much RAM. I remember at one point my dad upgraded it for quite a lot of money, and we then had a 20 hard drive. Unbelievable!

  3. Dylan
    June 22, 2012 at 10:20 am

    At that price i wouldn't buy it even if they gave me the money to buy it.

  4. Ujiro
    June 21, 2012 at 7:43 am

    I know that the macbook pro is quite expensive. If you are looking for a high end laptop why not buy the alienware M18x. It has high screen resolution, 16 GB of RAM, 1 TB hard disc, and a blu ray optical drive and the interesting thing about this laptop is that it goes for the same price range as the Macbook Pro when you order for it from The only thing that will discourage you from buying this machine is the heavy weight and the low battery life ( 1hr:30min on full charge). By the way if you are looking for a lightweight PC with extralong battery life why not buy a tablet instead? To summarize the whole issue everyone should know that things created by mortals aren't perfect only the immortals and Supernatural Being is perfect. So when you are buying any machine do not expect a perfect machine. Expect some advantages and disadvantages as well. This is the reason why machines cannot be loved by everybody people have different taste and habits.

    • Yaara Lancet
      June 23, 2012 at 1:43 pm

      Thanks for the interesting comment! I actually never really thought of Alienware as a Mac alternative, isn't i aimed mainly at gamers? I know they cost about the same, but I thought they were meant for quite different things.

  5. Munish Gupta
    June 21, 2012 at 4:59 am

    I got the 13" i5 4GB version of 2012 macbook pro. Upgraded RAM to 8 Gb. Works great now.

  6. Le Mon
    June 20, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    awesome, but price matters :/

  7. anonymus
    June 19, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    if you want to check the differences between the Retina Display Macbook Pro and standard Macbook pro, you can refer to the link given below:

  8. J Maharjan
    June 19, 2012 at 6:43 am

    too expensive, too hard for maintenance and repair, too expensive and what was that again? yes too expensive.

  9. gattolino
    June 18, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    too expensive... and the resolution can be a problem... i have a 15.4" full hd laptop and text is already too small sometimes...

  10. Wayne
    June 18, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    I would love to have the retina display. But a cannot consider a device that is so tightly closed. I may discover after the fact that I should have purchased more RAM. I may want more internal storage later. None of these things can be done in the future. You must know, at the time of the purchase, what limits the future will impose. I am not willing to do that. Oh, by the way, some would call me an Apple fan-boy (we have an iMac, MacBook Pro, 2 iPhones, and 3 iPads in my household). So, I am not bashing Apple because I'm a hater. But, I will not be buying one of the new MacBook Pro computers (and I really want the new display!).

    • Kevin
      June 18, 2012 at 5:18 pm

      In terms of future expansion requirements, I am not concerned about the inflexible internal storage, as I am fine with putting on external storage via the announced thunderbolt to firewire 800 cable for those rare times I would need to. Additionally, I can seen myself getting thunderbolt external storage in the not-to-distant future. Do these options help to alleviate your concerns about expanding storage?

      The show stopper for me is the supported RAM limits -- only the new MacBook Pro with Retina display supports 16GB, and I need it to support the kind of work I do on the laptop. The others, surprisingly to me, STILL do not support more 8GB RAM.

      However, even if this were to change in some near future and Apple did allow us to put in third-party RAM to 16GB, I'd probably still get the new Retina display model as the price actually comes out cheaper than the old-style MacBook Pro laptop once you install and/or replace their internal storage with a reputable and fast 256GB SSD (like OCZ Vertex). And, I really have NO use for CD/DVD any longer!

      The biggest concern that I have is how this "non-user-replaceable internal SSD" will last, what with the cautionary tales I've heard of gradual degrading of SSD drives performance -- that is really concerning.... At least with the regular Pros you can easily replace a failing or worn-out internal SSD when you need to...

  11. Dany Bouffard
    June 18, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    I dont like anything made by Apple, I prefer to not have to use their software or hardware at all. Prefer to have a choice. Usually for the same price of what apple make you can have a more powerful PC.

    • Bahr?m
      June 20, 2012 at 7:43 am

      Me neither. Their hadware/software combi is not usually of bad quality though. In my opinion the problem is with their philosophy. Being overprice, non-upgradeable, monopoly on hardware, and stupid customer service defines Apples philosophy.

  12. Meitei
    June 18, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    Upgrades are too frequent. Bought an MBP last year, but now it seems to be a piece of junk compared to these new ones. Apple always keeps its consumers wanting for more.

  13. Tony Gough
    June 18, 2012 at 11:39 am

    I think most of the comments are missing the point. The new MacBook Pro isn't for the consumer market, it's aimed squarely at the professional user, who uses way beyond more RAM, processing power etc than a consumer, and who need the computing hardware/software capable of fulfilling a considerable number of tasks at the same time. Apple have made it clear that the rest of the product line are for the consumer.

    However, the inability to increase the RAM is likely to be a problem in due course and is a poor design fault, which should never have happened in the first place, particularly if the pro is the only option. The removal of the optical drive is only an issue if you produce CDs and DVDs, but is easily overcome by adding an external drive. It would have been much more preferable if Apple had greatly increased the free iCloud storage for pro users.

    With regard to the pro being too expensive, that is a common complaint for all Apple's products and with the amount of revenue being generated by Apple, some of the profits could be reduced by either offering lower prices or rebates on Apple software; the bottom line wouldn't be that greatly affected.

    The retina display is just beautiful, and if Apple can 'shift' enough pros then the display will become the norm, rather than the exception. The use of games and apps across the entire Apple spectrum is to be welcomed, largely because most users want the maximum use across a single, unified, eocsystem.

    Yes, Apple products are expensive and yes, you do pay a premium for their products. With the introduction of the new MacBook Pro, Apple have clearly stated that the Pro market remains important to us. There is almost certainly going to be a new iMac, 27in or bigger, that will tie in nicely with the MacBook Pro; the evidence is already there that both the consumer and pro market will have complimentary hardware in pairs.

    Yes, the cost is higher than it needs be, and if Apple is serious in it intentions then as more people buy them, the market will dictate that Apple reduces it price accordingly.

    • Yaara Lancet
      June 18, 2012 at 3:52 pm

      Thanks for taking the time to comment! This was interesting viewpoint.

  14. Susendeep Dutta
    June 18, 2012 at 7:29 am

    Although MacBook Pro has retina screen and has good slim looks but soldering
    RAM and battery is glued in such a way that if anyone is successful in removing it,it'll damage the trackpad.The screen has no protective glass,hence prone to scratches.So,if anything goes wrong with any part,user has to take it to the store and has to pay huge amount of money to repair it.I think that Apple has done this to reduce the number of exchanges of its products.

    I'm seeing that good things are always soldered into the device.

    • Laga Mahesa
      June 18, 2012 at 10:11 am

      I used to be jealous of places where being able to exchange/replace something that was damaged in some way other than a manufacturing defect was considered normal. Not anymore, though. I take pride in looking after my things.

      At first, I, too, was a bit taken aback by the low repairability as reported by iFixIt. However, with 8Gb (or, help, 16Gb) of RAM, the odds of me actually wanting to remove it are pretty slim. Repairs are always better done by someone qualified, especially while under warranty, so, really, there's very little lost.

      • Yaara Lancet
        June 18, 2012 at 3:49 pm

        I don't know about that. When I bought my laptop 3 years ago, 2GB of RAM seemed like a lot. Two years later, 2GB wasn't nearly enough and I bought 2 more. Now I have 4GB, but that's not really enough either.

        If a laptop is that good and should be with you for many years, it seems a shame to not be able to upgrade it easily.

        • Laga Mahesa
          June 18, 2012 at 3:58 pm

          This is true. Although I have been quite happy with 4Gb for the past several years on my desktop, I can definitely see where 8 Gb or even 16 would be nice - eg, running Parallels with my hackintosh install.

          Such upgrades, though, are few and far between. It is easy to do on a desktop, but does it really have to be? It's such a rare event that a bit of elbow grease and care should be kind of expected... and it does, because you tend to end up cleaning everything out anyway and replacing the thermal grease.

          Yes the RAM is soldered on, and the battery is glued in, but that just means a bit of extra work.

  15. italianmoses
    June 18, 2012 at 7:28 am

    Way too overpriced for the parts used. My 2 year old Dell Studio XPS running Linux has way better parts than the Macbook Pro, and I paid about $1400 total for it with the best processor, graphics, and RAM available. There is nothing better about a Mac vs. any other computer. The virus argument is invalid since there are mac viruses now, any other brand computer is cheaper (Linux is free btw), and you would just be paying for an image. Case closed.

  16. Ken Gaming
    June 18, 2012 at 6:56 am

    I don't like apple...

  17. Laga Mahesa
    June 18, 2012 at 6:02 am

    Absolutely fantastic, I'll be buying one when they're available here in Indonesia.

    - I couldn't care less about the Retina display. I do care, however, for the option to have a high res desktop. I can't stand how much vertical scrolling is required on all other modern laptops due to the limited vertical resolution, and having multiple windows open and visible simultaneously is a godsend. Now I need to find an equally high res monitor for my desktop at a humane price...

    - The specs will quite comfortably allow me to run both OSX and Windows 7.. simultaneously, via Parallels. I've already begun phasing Windows out of my life and this will help the transition a lot. The major holdover will be games, and I have no doubt that the MBP's nVidia chip will handle my needs quite fine. It my not be up to snuff for the hardcore online FPS gamer with ultra settings, but thankfully that's not me. Gameplay is #1 for me, so I've no problem with playing Skyrim at medium.

    - At last, goodbye optical media! I threw every single CD and DVD I owned into the trash two years ago and have never looked back. Optical drives are a cursed technology - I'd rather go back to floppies or even cassettes. For portability and emergency boot drives, flash drives are much more convenient and a helluva lot more reliable.

    • Yaara Lancet
      June 18, 2012 at 8:23 am

      Interesting points. Just curious, do you know what the new Pro would cost in Indonesia? Is it not much more expensive than similar laptops which are not made by Apple? Or do you feel the price is worth it for the high resolution it offers?

      • Laga Mahesa
        June 18, 2012 at 10:03 am

        Everything electronic sells at a premium here due to import duties and whatnot. I bought an Asus G60Vx Republic of Gamers laptop for circa $900 when it was on sale at Best Buy for $500. America's mysteriously selective export restrictions meant that I had no choice, really.

        Generally speaking, Apple products are an extra $150-200. is quoting 22,999,999 Rp, which, at the current exchange rate, equates to about @2330. Meanwhile is quoting 19,999,999, or $2130. It would be nice if I could get that discount but I'm not too worried about it.

        As for whether it's worth it, yes, definitely. It is indeed hugely more expensive than 'similar' laptops - but there's a lot that goes with that price that isn't mere specs.

        If it were JUST the resolution, no - I'd at least think twice, and probably opt for an Air instead. This MBP, however, covers all my criteria - resolutions & specs, build quality, and, most importantly, a proven customer service track record.

        It's that last bit that makes the price of Apple products worthwhile, IMO. From software updates to repairs, there are no other contenders.

        Despite the fact that Indonesia does not host a single Apple store (nor iTunes music/movies! Grrr!), I've never had a problem with authorized service centres. Any repair jobs get sent to Singapore (which does have an Apple Store) and the whole process takes less than a week. Unlike the times I've had to deal with the warranties on other goods, with Apple products the staff don't second guess me or try to weasle out of anything.

        A few months ago my girlfriend's brother sent in a 2008 Macbook with a dodgy screen - well over the warranty with no apple care agreement. It came back with a brand new motherboard and a free update to OSX with a little note, "Kayaknya udah benar, kabarin kalau ada masalah!" - "Looks like everything's working, let us know if there are any problems!"

        There are no subsidies here. There are no realistic ways to return to manufacturers - the shipping fees and dangers alone make it pointless. I pay full whack for everything ($1300 black market import for a first-run 3Gs, my first Apple foray/gamble) so I am extremely picky with what I buy. I'm not a fanboi by that definition, but I am most definitely a fan.

        • Yaara Lancet
          June 18, 2012 at 3:42 pm

          Sounds like Indonesia enjoys very good Apple service! Where I live, we don't have an Apple store either, and the service you get from Apple's exclusive importers is appalling.

          I'm not sure I would pay double for really good service, but it would definitively enter my considerations, so I see where you're coming from on this.

        • Laga Mahesa
          June 18, 2012 at 4:00 pm

          Is there no authorized repair centre where you are? The primary importer here, iBox, is also an authorized repair centre and Apple keeps a very, very tight grip on them.

        • Yaara Lancet
          June 18, 2012 at 4:19 pm

          I'm replying here to our last question because the thread is too long to reply directly.

          There is an authorized repair center. It used to be very, very bad, and then the importer was switched and it got somewhat better. But generally, Apple service here is pretty bad, not at all up to par with Apple service in other place in the world. I think Apple just don't care that much.

  18. Ramjot Singh
    June 18, 2012 at 5:22 am

    Seriously $2200. I would buy myself an alienware with that. And those who say lightweight and stuff please go and buy a Tab instead. Retina display isn't exactly a great thing to pay $2200 for. Just browse around and you will get a nice laptop/ultrabook in much less price with much better specs.

    • Laga Mahesa
      June 18, 2012 at 10:13 am

      Gaming at 2880x1800 doesn't pique your curiosity at all?

  19. Vipul Jain
    June 18, 2012 at 3:34 am

    Spend $2200 or almost INR 110000 on it.
    Still cannot play all my favorite games at ultra settings.
    Would buy an Alienware if i get that kind of money :D

    • Laga Mahesa
      June 18, 2012 at 10:13 am

      Or a desktop, lol. :)

  20. Kumar
    June 18, 2012 at 3:32 am

    Apple inc is going way above and pricing products. I mean you are making it a luxury to own these products rather than a need. Its just too over priced. There has to be a voice and regulation asking these firms what basis do they price products such a way. It's unacceptable

    • Yaara Lancet
      June 18, 2012 at 8:20 am

      I think it's way too expensive too. I would love to try a MacBook at one time, but I simply can't afford to pay double the price for the same specs I can get on a PC laptop.

    • Laga Mahesa
      June 18, 2012 at 10:15 am

      DeBeers would have you winging your way to some desert bunker via extraordinary rendition in no time flat if that came to pass. :)

    • Jamie
      June 19, 2012 at 7:24 pm


      Apple, Inc. can easily justify the pricing of their products compared to other computer manufacturers. You must consider the extensive R&D done by Apple. The engineering far exceeds what is done by others. Every other manufacturer simply sends specs for others to assemble while Apple engineers every aspect and component with full compatibility. You can't purchase a Windows computer that is 100% compatible. It doesn't exist.

      Our engineers (Microsoft) are not going to customize the OS for any specific manufacturer's hardware. Windows is a very generic operating system. You may not see it, but you will experience the difference of that Apple engineering. You can have all the same components, but if they are not coordinated and designed to be compatible you will not get the results. It is not just the processor, it is the mother board components that must take advantage of the processor. The hardware itself is useless without an operating system to maximize its potential.

      The Mac OS is optimized to maximize the hardware potential. But that's not all there is. Apple includes components in its OS to optimize software as well. Third party developers can take advantage to better integrate audio, text, video and graphics. Developers don't have to recreate these functions. They wouldn't be able to get duplicate the consistency. The Mac OS contains far more functionality than does Windows. It is a more elegant OS.

      An example would be spell and grammar check. Windows does not have it in the OS. Developers have to program it into their software if they want it. As I type this in an online dialogue box, I have spell check. If I was using my Windows computer, I would not have it. If I wanted it, I'd have to write in Word or a similar program with spell check and cut and paste. Even then there are formatting issues.

      All the little things add up, whether it is the mag safe power cord and back lit keyboards or the additional software included with the Mac. I also appreciate the superior environmental safety built in to a Mac. These things take extensive R&D and additional engineering. Perhaps you don't consider these cost justifiable and that is your choice. Buy whatever you wish.

      I would like to think that I get what I pay for, but in fact, I get far more. Not only do our TCO studies prove it, but my personal enjoyment, ease of use and productivity on a Mac exceed anything I can do with my Windows computers. I haven't even begun to consider the operability between the Mac, iPad and iPhone. Windows just can't compare and Linux is not close either. It all comes out in the bottom line. For me and millions of others the cost is justified.

      • Yaara Lancet
        June 20, 2012 at 6:14 am

        Thank you again, Jamie, for taking the time to write this comment. I love hearing these opinions, as I rarely get to talk to people who actually use Mac these days.

        I must say that I also have in-browser spell check, and I believe it's a browser feature, not an OS feature. It's true that IE did not have that feature until very recently, but... we'll that's IE.

        I really do agree that you get what you pay for, and if a non-Mac laptop is simply not enough for you, it makes sense to pay for more.

  21. Jamie
    June 18, 2012 at 3:27 am

    The upfront cost is of little consequence in a computer. We do Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) studies that consistently show the insignificance of the initial price. Of course, we don't have studies on the new Retina display laptop yet. Generally, in TCO studies, Windows laptops are 300-400% more costly than Mac laptops. The radical changes are great for marketing, but I'm suspicious of all the innovation and how it may not be as consistently reliable as other Macbook Pro laptops.

    The most important factor is how a computer meets your specific needs. My need for an optical drive is rare. Others may desire it. Viewing the detail in photos is far more important for me. There is no computer out there with a comparable screen. The cost is irrelevant. The benchmarks seem to indicate that it is also at the top of the heap. A few hundred dollars over a two year period is insignificant for me. For less than a dollar a day difference, I'd rather most adequately meet my needs with a faster, quieter, lighter computer.

    • Ramjot Singh
      June 18, 2012 at 5:24 am

      I would seriously want to look at your studies :). A Windows system costing 300-400% times higher than a Mac!!! Post the study somewhere and I would like to see it.

    • Yaara Lancet
      June 18, 2012 at 8:19 am

      This is very interesting. Mac laptops are much harder to repair and upgrade, especially this new one. If I had to send my laptop somewhere for a new battery, or if I had no way to upgrade my RAM, but 3-year-old Dell laptop would've probably been in the trash by now. But as it is, it's still very much alive and kicking, and I suspect it will stay with me for at least a couple more years.

      How does it come up that Windows laptops are 300%-400% more expensive? Where do these expenses enter? Repairs? If it's upgrades, well, that makes sense.

      • Yiannis
        June 18, 2012 at 9:25 am

        Don't you get it? The guy is a Mac user (I avoid stereotypical terms) and he came up a with a fancy name for his fictional "studies" to say something that doesn't make sense whatsoever. I don't think anybody but prof photographers and movies' fans will actually take advantage of the retinal display. They will not even notice the difference and probably will not even care.

        • Laga Mahesa
          June 18, 2012 at 10:17 am

          Look beyond the 'retina' marketing. I'm looking at the only laptop with a 2880x1800 desktop. Goodbye endless vertical scrolling, hello multiple windows and happy coding.

        • Joshua Todd Cowper
          June 18, 2012 at 11:30 am

          Not if the text is too tiny for you to see!

        • Yaara Lancet
          June 18, 2012 at 3:37 pm

          But do you feel this resolution alone is worth the steep price? Is there something else about the Pro you can't find in much cheaper laptops?

        • Laga Mahesa
          June 18, 2012 at 4:04 pm

          Damn the nesting limit.

          Yaara: Longevity. Oh, and resale value. Apple second hand prices here are popular cars - you don't lose too much if you do a sell-upgrade path. That's what I've done with the iPad so far, buy-sell-buy, the difference in between I shrug off as wear, tear and maintenance, lol.

      • Jamie
        June 18, 2012 at 11:36 pm

        The studies/surveys on laptops are primarily on about 30 colleges campuses with both undergraduate and graduate students. The most significant reason for cost difference is life-expentancy. Windows laptops average about 1.8 years while Macs last in excess of 3.8 years on average. Additional costs are due to software and OS costs, hardware repair, maintenance and recovery due to malware. We use a four year service period. Not considered is residual value. That would clearly give greater advantage to Macs since they are worth several hundred dollars more than a Windows laptop at an age of 2-4 years. Laga Mahesa, you are correct.

        Some factors are minimal for a single laptop such as energy cost. However, for schools with thousands of computers in labs, etc. it is very significant. It is more prominent in warm weather areas where air conditioning costs are much higher. Windows computers require more power and give off more heat. That heat may be a reason for more hardware failure in Windows units. Beyond energy, we do not give any consideration to recycling and the fact that Macs are "greener".

        In addition to the generated heat, it is surmised that the use of the unibody case and the mother board engineering play a role in the cost difference. Laptops are mobile and the flex and movement can lead to failure. The unibody case is far more rigid and minimizes flexing. It is made from a solid block of aluminum vs a stamped material. There is also a reduction in number of parts.

        Regarding mother boards, Apple is the only computer manufacturer that fully engineers its board and coordinates and maximizes the compatibility and specificity with the operating systems teams at Apple. To do this, they have a team of engineers that works at Intel with the Intel engineers. Microsoft on the other hand, creates a generic OS so that it can be used by a huge variety of computer mother board configurations.

        The complete reports are extensive and dozens of pages long. Unfortunately, they are considered proprietary and we are not at liberty to reveal them other than to the company that paid for them.

        Yiannis, you are correct, I am a Mac user... and also a Windows user and a Microsoft Partner. You are correct that the Retina display is advantageous for photographers, videographers and movie buffs. However, many others may also benefit. Benchmarks indicate that it is also the fastest laptop out there. That is why I indicated that the most important factor is to meet one's particular needs. The retinal display Macbook Pro is simply more computer than some users would need.

        I also said that we do not have specific data on this new retina laptop. We expect to see similar cost data, but that is yet to be verified. My own children enjoy their 13-inch Macbooks. Two have the Macbook air and one a 3-year old Macbook Pro. They have no intention of upgrading. The retina laptop is more than they need. One son upgraded to the new 13" Mac Air simply because it was best for him and he could donate his 5+ year old 13" Macbook to a high school robotics team to use for their programming needs. We all have our reasons and must make our own decisions.

        My point was mainly that the upfront cost should not be the major factor in determining a computer purchase. Determine your needs and what would work best to meet those needs. BTW: I do own stock in various tech companies including Apple and Microsoft, but I couldn't care less what computer you choose.

        I hope this helps those that wanted more info.

        • Yaara Lancet
          June 19, 2012 at 8:22 am

          Thank you for taking the time to write this comment, Jamie. It was very interesting to read, I didn't know many of these things.

          I was a Mac user up until 1998, and have been using Windows since. My PC laptop is over 3 years old and still alive and kicking, but your sample size is bigger. :)

        • Jamie
          June 19, 2012 at 9:04 am

          Our sample size is based on college students who may not be as kind to their laptops. You are likely a kinder, gentler person.

          I'm glad I could provide some insight.

    • Kevin
      June 18, 2012 at 5:27 pm

      I agree with Ramjot here; I would really like to hear more about these studies, please post or otherwise at least let us know more details (whatever you can) about them.

  22. Kevin
    June 18, 2012 at 3:12 am

    I'd rather splash the cash on an ipad. I've an iPad, Android Phone (though would rather have an iphone but that's a personal preference). For a computer I've a Dell XPS which is a great piece of kit. Though bulkier than I would want, it doesn't matter. The Ipad (insert your favorite tablet) is the new laptop and the laptop is the new desktop. Meaning - between my smartphone, tablet, and laptop I no longer need a desktop, at all. As an IT professional it's important that I do have a semi-powerful machine that can run proprietary software seamlessly. AutoCad, Linkware, Etc. (probably bad examples). Point is that I'm still at a point where I do need a Window's machine, and since there is no point in me owning a desktop, it's going to be my 'laptop'. Also, at least they have the capability of playing high end games..

    • Yaara Lancet
      June 18, 2012 at 8:03 am

      Thanks for the elaborate reply! I must agree with you on the laptop/desktop issue. I know some people still feel the need for a desktop, and it does still serve some purpose, I haven't owned one in several years and really don't feel that I need one.

      • John
        June 18, 2012 at 10:41 am

        When they make a laptop with a 27' 3D screen that i can play high-end games at maxxed-out settings, and give it 10 TB of storage and 7.1 surround, I will call it a 'desktop replacement'. Until then, my desktop isn't going anywhere... :)

        • Yaara Lancet
          June 18, 2012 at 3:34 pm

          I know several people who feel the same way. My boyfriend still uses a Desktop with two 24' screens. I guess some people still need them! :)

        • Achraf Almouloudi
          June 20, 2012 at 8:14 pm

          Heat problem would prevent them .

      • Achraf Almouloudi
        June 20, 2012 at 8:14 pm

        Can you please make a poll to see who is using Desktop or Laptop so they can maybe give us a reason why they need such big device .

        • Yaara Lancet
          June 21, 2012 at 6:34 am

          Excellent idea! I will try to run something like this soon. Thanks!

  23. Brian Strunk
    June 18, 2012 at 2:54 am

    I'm more excited by the new air models.

    • Laga Mahesa
      June 18, 2012 at 10:20 am

      I was hopeful for them, but with the Intel HD chipset I'm not impressed.

  24. safarix
    June 18, 2012 at 2:47 am

    love me some glued on components.

  25. Mihovil Pletikos
    June 18, 2012 at 2:47 am

    much too expensive.... and really retina display's resolution is not so important....

    • Tony Alexander
      June 18, 2012 at 3:14 pm

      I completely agree with Mihovil.

    • Joshua Paul
      June 20, 2012 at 7:18 pm

      i agree.. too expensive, no firewire and retina is not important

    • Achraf Almouloudi
      June 20, 2012 at 8:11 pm

      It is higher than HDTV which is so incredibly great .

  26. Charlie
    June 18, 2012 at 2:36 am

    can't wait! Time to trade my old macs and get this gorgeous in!

  27. Chris
    June 18, 2012 at 12:59 am

    I do not like the huge price increase and that it has no optical drive. Everything else is great.

    • Ryan Middlesworth
      June 19, 2012 at 2:43 am

      Also, it is designed in such a manner, so that upgrading and/or repairing it is near impossible without getting a whole NEW Macbook. The thing I hate about it the most is that the RAM is directly attached to the logic board. But I do think that's it's a great computer if you're never planning to upgrade it!

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