Here’s How You Can Use Android But Ditch Google
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Over the past several weeks, I made a big change to the way I use my Android phone. I decided to go Google-free.

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As it turns out, giving up Google is possible, and the experience isn’t nearly as bad as you might think.

This is a look at what I’m still able to do without relying on any of Google’s services, including Google Play services, and what I have had to give up.

First, Why Go Google-Free?

Only a particular set of people are willing to give up access to the Play Store and Google’s suite of apps. That said, you may be one of them. There are many reasons why you might want to make the effort, and here are some of the big ones.

1. Google Has Gotten Out of Hand

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When I first started using Google, it was to perform searches. Then it became a way to manage mail, which then turned into a place for instant messaging. It became a way to look at maps, which morphed into a GPS replacement steering me around town. It became a place for writing documents and storing files.

Google became a way to browse the web and sync every page I visited. Then it turned into a way to download and manage apps, track Android devices, and wipe them remotely. Search on Android became Google Now, a digital assistant that uses everything Google knows about us to predict what we may be interested in or want to know.

I’m not inherently against sharing any of this information with a company, but to share it all with one company is a bit much. This leads us to reason #2.

2. You Want to Increase Your Privacy

Google Play services run in the background on every Android device that ships with the Play Store, and this helps Google perform any number of tasks from installing apps remotely to pulling up your location. These services also give third-party apps access to some of that functionality.

Opting not to sign in with a Google account reduces some of the information you’re giving away. That said, it won’t suddenly turn your device into a ghost. The act of pinging and connecting to cell towers makes mobile phones inherently trackable. But making this change reduces some of the information that you generate and share.

3. You Like Open Source

Android is an open source operating system, but most of the software that we use on our phones isn’t. If you’ve ever wanted to use only the open source bits, the easiest way is to replace your phone’s default firmware with a custom ROM.

This way, you know you’re getting the parts Google contributes to the Android Open Source Project. Sure, there are some proprietary bits that get your phone’s radios and sensors to work, but that’s the same compromise many of us make when we install Linux on our PCs How to Choose the Best Laptop to Install Linux How to Choose the Best Laptop to Install Linux It's never been harder to install Linux on a laptop. No longer a matter of downloading, burning, and hoping for a compatible WiFi card, these laptops, new and old, are your best option. Read More .

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Since it’s really hard to know which apps in the Play Store are open source, avoiding it entirely decreases your likelihood of installing something closed. You will still need to get apps from somewhere, but we’ll come back to that.

Why Shouldn’t You Go Google-Free?

Okay, you’re curious. Hold on. Here are some reasons why you might want to exercise restraint.

1. You May Have to Give Up A Lot of Apps

You might not be able to continue using much of what you rely on right now. Saying goodbye to Google means losing out on the many Android apps that Google makes.

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If you choose to go a step further, like I did, and use only open source software, say goodbye to social networks, music streaming services, popular games, most navigation tools, cloud storage providers, video streaming sites, and most productivity tools.

There are alternatives to some of these apps available, but if you want to go 100% open source, you’re going to miss out on quite a bit.

2. Slower Updates

Alternative app stores may provide access to a good number of apps you would find on Google Play, but updates don’t roll out as quickly. Some of these sources fall weeks or months behind.

This isn’t solely a matter of losing out on the latest features either.

3. Security Risks

Slow updates can leave you open to known vulnerabilities. But that’s not the primary security risk you open yourself up to Malware on Android: The 5 Types You Really Need to Know About Malware on Android: The 5 Types You Really Need to Know About Malware can affect mobile as well as desktop devices. But don't be afraid: a bit of knowledge and the right precautions can protect you from threats like ransomware and sextortion scams. Read More . The most common way to compromise a device is to install malicious software, typically unsuspectingly. Using an alternative app store means allowing software outside of the Play Store to be installed, opening yourself up to these kind of attacks.

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Unfortunately, this is a trade off you have to ask yourself. Do you rely on the added security that comes from only installing software from the Play Store (which, for what it’s worth, can occasionally allow a piece of sketchy software slip by), or do you get your apps from elsewhere and run the risk of getting your hands on something that hasn’t been vetted?

What Apps Can You Use Out of the Box?

Now that you have thought things through, here is the experience you can expect to find when you choose not to sign into your Google account. What you see will vary depending on the device you’re using.

Now let’s acknowledge something here. Even without installing a single app, our smartphones are already capable of doing a great deal. Think about it. You can place calls, send text messages, take photos, maintain a calendar, listen to music, solve math problems, take notes, and browse the web without looking for additional software. This is already more than what feature phones can do, and let’s be real, millions of people are still carrying one of those around without it having a negative effect on their lives.

How functional your phone will be out of the box will depend on the manufacturer. LG, HTC, and Samsung devices come with a number of pre-installed apps that you will only find on each company’s devices. These apps will continue to work without syncing your phone to a Google account.

On a Nexus device, however, the situation is a bit more challenging. These gadgets come loaded with Google software. Below is what I see after performing a factory reset on my Nexus 5 running Android Marshmallow. This isn’t the phone I’ve been using Google-free these past few weeks — I just figured folks might like a look at what to expect on a stock Android device.

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Next is what’s left after I disable all the apps that require a Google account. Altogether, fifteen apps wouldn’t let me do anything without logging in, and one of them couldn’t be disabled (Google Search).

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Even with the apps that remain, not using a Google account means giving up on some functionality. The dialer app still functions the same as usual, but it doesn’t automatically pull down contacts, and I can’t pull up numbers that aren’t saved to my device. Most phones have a pre-installed calendar app that just won’t pull down Google Calendar events, and in the case of a Nexus, you’re going to need to find a new calendar app entirely. The default one relies completely on Google Calendar.

The Hangouts app lets me send SMS messages, and Gmail works with non-Gmail accounts. The camera app take photos, but it doesn’t offer to automatically back them up to Google Photos (or, if you’re reading this a few years from now, whatever method of online storage Google is pushing these days). Play Music only play files stored locally.

Chrome browses the web, but it doesn’t show my history or synced tabs (a feature I keep turned off anyway). There’s nothing on the note-taking front. Other manufacturers may offer a decent option, but nothing that syncs like Google Keep or is as capable as Google Docs. At least Google Maps, surprisingly, works just fine.

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Frankly, this situation didn’t bother me. Despite the wide availability of music streaming services, I still buy albums and store my music locally. Even with access to cloud services, I back up much of my stuff to hard drives. When given the choice to sync my browsing history and tabs, I decline. These are all habits I formed due to limited data plans, spotty coverage, inconsistent access to reliable Internet, and discomfort at the thought of trusting companies with such personal data. I say this to stress that there may be other things you lose by giving up Google that just don’t occur to me due to the way I use my phone.

That said, I needed more apps than this to continue doing what I expected from a smartphone.

How Do You Get More Apps?

There are a number of alternative app stores for Android, but I’m only going to go over a couple. Which one you prefer will vary depending on why you’re choosing to go without the Play Store.

F-Droid

I didn’t just opt to go Google-free. I also wanted to exclusively use open source software. Because of this, I chose to install F-Droid, an app store of sorts that only contains free and open source software Want to Rid Yourself of the Android Play Store? Kiss Google Goodbye and Try F-Droid Want to Rid Yourself of the Android Play Store? Kiss Google Goodbye and Try F-Droid Did you know that Android allows the installation of app stores other than the Play Store? You might already use apps from the Amazon Appstore and GetJar—but you probably never heard that a completely free,... Read More . Linux users may find that it feels more like a software repository. F-Droid doesn’t contain screenshots, but it keeps logs of new versions and lets you revert to older releases if necessary.

For a while now, F-Droid looked outdated. But since the latest version it sports material design Exploring Android L: What Exactly Is Material Design? Exploring Android L: What Exactly Is Material Design? You may have heard about Android L and Material Design, but what exactly is this new design philosophy and how will it affect Android and other Google products? Read More , and it feels right at home on modern Android devices.

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F-Droid contains over a thousand apps, and I find I can get by using just its selection. That said, I don’t play many games on my phone, nor do I use it to browse social networks. Folks who do won’t find what they’re looking for here.

Amazon Appstore

The Amazon Appstore has been around since 2011 and now contains over 300,000 apps. If you just don’t trust Google but still want your software distributed by another well-known name, Amazon may be the way to go Google Play vs. Amazon Appstore: Which Is Better? Google Play vs. Amazon Appstore: Which Is Better? The Google Play Store isn't your only option when it comes to downloading apps -- should you give the Amazon Appstore a try? Read More . This is the default app store on Kindle Fire tablets, and its collection is large enough to keep folks who buy those devices satisfied.

The Appstore lacks access to Google software, but you shouldn’t have much trouble finding alternatives. You will also find apps from the major social networks. With Amazon Underground providing free consumption of games that would otherwise cost money, you may even be tempted to go this route even if you keep the Play Store installed.

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But for the privacy conscious, I don’t see how trading Google for Amazon is at all an improvement. Amazon Underground in particular tracks every moment that you spend using an app, because this is how it determines how much developers get paid.

Other Google Play Alternatives

In addition to F-Droid and the Amazon Appstore, there’s SlideME and the Mobogenie Market (both of which we’ve covered in the past Google Play Alternatives For Downloading Android Apps Without Fuss Google Play Alternatives For Downloading Android Apps Without Fuss Many people think that the Google Play Store is the only option Android users have for downloading apps, but there are actually quite a few quality alternatives out there. Read More ). Other options include GetJar and Yandex. LG provides its own app store, and so does Samsung.

Download Apps Directly from Your Browser

Though getting your software from an app store is the recommended model, you also have the option to download apps directly from websites. This is risky, so be careful which websites you trust. Some notable options include CNET and APK Mirror (full disclosure: I also write for Android Police, which hosts APK Mirror).

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The downside to this approach is that you will not get automatic updates, which is a security vulnerability. I would suggest considering this a last ditch option for those must-have apps that you can’t find outside of the Play Store.

Replacing Must-Have Features

Yes, a smartphone is pretty smart just the way it is, but there are some features that many of us aren’t willing to give up. What goes here will vary by user, but these are the categories where I had to go searching for good options.

Search & Web Browsing

I don’t use my phone to browse the web all that much. When I do open a web browser, it’s usually to search for something. So I was very happy to find that DuckDuckGo, the search engine that doesn’t track you Why This Longtime Google Fan Now Prefers DuckDuckGo Why This Longtime Google Fan Now Prefers DuckDuckGo Most of us don't remember life before Google search. Try DuckDuckGo. Learn its tricks. There could be nothing you miss about Google. Read More , has an Android app that combines the two experiences into one. You can perform searches and open the resulting webpage all in the same place.

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This effectively makes DuckDuckGo my primary browser, even though it lacks much of the functionality you would find in something like Chrome. You can also drop a widget at the top of your homepage where you would usually see Google.

Half of the time I’m looking for something on Wikipedia. Since pulling up information in the dedicated Android app is much faster than going through a browser, I like to keep it around. Fortunately, the app continues to work just fine.

Navigation

Google Maps may work without an account, but I had already cut down on my usage even before giving up the Play Store. Instead I tried options like Sygic and Nokia Here What's the Best Maps and Navigation App for Android? What's the Best Maps and Navigation App for Android? Using the rights maps and navigation app can mean the difference between making it to your appointment on time or being late -- so we examine the best of them for you! Read More . These apps are still available in places outside of the Play Store.

Since I decided to go the open source route, I eventually settled on OsmAnd. It’s not nearly as flashy as other navigation apps, but with the option to download free maps of most of the world, it does have its advantages. I recommend pairing it with AddressToGPS, because the app is pretty bad at recognizing street addresses on its own.

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Podcasts

Podcasts are a major form of entertainment for me. I easily spend more time listening to them than I do watching TV and movies or playing music. My previous favorite was BeyondPod, but now I’ve started using AntennaPod.

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There are only a couple other options available in F-Droid, but if you aren’t working with that limitation, you shouldn’t have any problem at all finding a good podcast app in your alternative app store of choice.

Notes & To-Do Lists

I really like Google Keep, just not the way it syncs everything to the cloud. This means I’m also put off by Evernote and similar alternatives 9 Best Apps For Managing To-Do Lists On Android 9 Best Apps For Managing To-Do Lists On Android If you need to keep track of what to do next, these Android apps could be a life saver. Read More . Since I only want something basic that stores my notes locally, I went with Swiftnotes. I would also recommend Mirakel or Tasks (an open source fork of Astrid) if you’re interested in saving to-do lists to your device.

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Really, That’s All You Needed?

Pretty much. My device came with a decent music player, and so does the software that ships on most phones. If you need a recommendation, try Shuttle, which I know is available on the Amazon Appstore. You can also find Spotify, iHeartRadio, and Pandora.

On the social network front, there’s Facebook, Pinterest, Tumblr, Twitter, and Vine. I personally don’t trust using something like Amazon Underground, but it’s absolutely loaded with games.

Living Without Google Play Services

Not signing into a Google account cuts the company off from your personal identity, but it doesn’t disconnect Google from your device. To really go Google-free, you’re going to want to get rid of Google Play services. Thing is, you can’t do so without a decent amount of effort. This is not one of those apps you can disable out of the box.

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There are two choices you can make. The least invasive option is to root your phone The Complete Guide to Rooting Your Android Phone or Tablet The Complete Guide to Rooting Your Android Phone or Tablet So, you want to root your Android device? Here's everything you need to know. Read More , which will let you delete software you can’t otherwise remove.  The second is to replace your phone’s default operating system with a custom ROM like CyanogenMod How To Install CyanogenMod On Your Android Device How To Install CyanogenMod On Your Android Device A lot of people can agree that the Android operating system is pretty awesome. Not only is it great to use, but it's also free as in open source, so that it can be modified... Read More . I went with the latter approach.

Thing is, some apps require Google Play Services to run. This means doing without some excellent third-party apps like Pushbullet. Even some open source apps that you would expect to be available in F-Droid, like Signal from Open Whisper Systems, require Google Play services.

Unfortunately, the apps that need Google Play Services aren’t clearly marked. My solution ended up being to exclusively use software I could find in F-Droid. You could presumably get by with whatever you find on Amazon or in alternative markets where Google apps aren’t available.

Basically, you should be fine until you start hunting around for APKs on the web. But sadly, giving up Google will mean losing access to some apps that you had no idea relied on the company’s services in the backend.

What If I Just Use Google Play Services?

If you’re interested in cutting out Google, it’s probably because you don’t want to give the company so much information.

Well, take a moment to go to the Google Play services Play Store page and view the list of required permissions. You may not have done this before since the background service comes pre-installed on most devices and generally only draws attention to itself when it crashes. Anyway, notice how you’re granting access to just about everything.

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This is no shameful secret or anything. You can visit the Google Developers site to see how Google Play services are intended to integrate with Android and Android apps. Most of those permissions are likely in place to enable this integration. Nevertheless, that’s a lot of permission you’re giving to an app that connects to remote servers typically without notice.

But I Can’t Do Without Google

Okay, you don’t have to cut yourself off entirely. You still have the option to sign into Google sites in your mobile browser the same way you would from a PC. The experience won’t be quite as good as using native apps, but if you’re concerned about privacy, this option lets you browse incognito or clear cookies manually whenever you wish.

So, Is It Worth It?

We have surrendered a great deal of personal information to smartphone makers, but this is hardly a story unique to Android, or iOS for that matter. We’ve accepted this trade off with every social network, every free email provider, every online maps site, and seemingly every other Internet-driven service.

There are many ways to cope with this new reality, but as we see at the beginning of every EULA agreement, you either accept things as they are or you opt out.

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I’m not out to encourage everyone to give up Google. As far as tech giants go, I like the company. Even without the Play Store, Android as a whole is predominantly a Google project. But Android devices (and Chromebooks too) are based on Linux, and this gives an open source guy like myself the freedom to make these sort of adjustments.

It gives privacy-minded users the option to take a bit more control over their devices. It gives minimalists the ability to strip out whatever isn’t necessary to place calls and browse the web. It gives us all the capability to opt out without having to throw away our phones.

Do you have any tips for living a Google-free and/or open source life? Let us know down in the comments!

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  1. Alfred99
    October 18, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    I want a cheap smartphone with a good camera, and I don't want to sign in to google or anything else. The camera has to be in the middle, not by the edge. I only care about one app, and I don't need google to get it. Other than that, I just want the usual stuff: phone, text, notepad. I prefer to pay $200 or less. Any suggestions about what phone I should get?

  2. Matthew Berry
    October 18, 2017 at 11:23 am

    Thank-you. I have hesitated leaving Nokia N8 because of Android links to Google where I have no accounts, and wish to use my choices of browsers, navigation, etc as per a mobile PC where I fail to recognise the value of most APPs, except perhaps for spreading social hysteria!

  3. Joshua
    October 11, 2017 at 7:57 am

    I have basically done this on the BlackBerry priv.There is no root but you can disable instead. Not optimal but a good trade off for this rendition of Android.

    Coming from BlackBerry 7 and 10 I wasn't accustomed to all the nosyness and intrusion just so icould have convenience. the so-called free apps come at a huge price. Most BlackBerry apps were Cheap. Certainly cheaper than giving a company unfettered access.

    At your recommendation I only use duckduckgo. I now *l go duck" it on the internet when I look stuff up

    For apps I just re-activate google play, gpservices etc, log in and buy an app and re-disable. Only reason I have Gmail at all

    Great article!

  4. Moem
    September 24, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    Nowadays, Signal can be used just fine without any connection to Google or their Play Store. It's working very well on my Blackphone.

  5. Sideloader
    September 24, 2017 at 8:23 am

    - Install apps from any source

    websearch of your choice (appname).apk

    transfer .apk file to phone.

    install apk.

    bamf, app installation without google. Be careful and check the checksums match the official release, you are installing via an insecure method. but this is what makes android great.

  6. Kyle
    September 18, 2017 at 10:22 am

    Our app AnT Notepad Cipher on playstore is particularly suited for private notes / text files. No ads or spying code, and it's even free for twitter lovers. (140 chrs)
    Another problem from google is that they completly shut down honest developers. You can only make a living if you "implant" google ads, analytics, tags or pay them a fortune.

  7. Angela
    September 17, 2017 at 10:44 am

    My mobile keeps asking me to update Google Play Services and I go through as far as the permissions window but then always abort because it's asking me to sign my life away to them and I do not give google permission to access my phone whenever they want, or leave turn it on and off when they want, or to access my contacts etc... the list is endless. I tried to uninstall but it won't let me. I turned off notifications but it still pops up telling me I need to update. I'm bloody sick of it.

  8. WebUser
    September 7, 2017 at 11:05 pm

    Thank you for this! I thought I was the only one! I love podcasts and privacy and I hate being treated as a lab rat by large corporations ?

  9. Lazar
    August 21, 2017 at 4:27 am

    I always try to avoid google. I avoid chrome, google search etc.. But i still use gmail, maps. I will change that, probably with proton mail,they are awesome. For job mostly i basically depend on social media and my gmail account but at least i don't have my personal data online, expect name i think. I recommend flashing some open source custom rom, most of them will be google free. I can't without many apps but i can change their unnecessarily permissions. Biggest problem is in google service, it won't work if you change permissions so that is that. They are forcing you to give them data.

    • Kyle
      September 18, 2017 at 10:29 am

      Exactly. They force all companies like samsung etc. You can't disable or even close google services (restart itself) , which collect all you do and give/sell to the whole world.

  10. John Phoenix
    August 4, 2017 at 10:55 pm

    I thought it was a good article. I got a free government phone from the Lifeline program. I can't root the phone to uninstall any Google bloatware or move apps to an sd card to save on the tiny space or use an sd card for a swap file to get more out of my ram - all very reasonable request. The phone uses Google products for Everything. I have no doubt everything I say and do on the phone is being recorded by someone. But hey.. as a government phone they should give me one I can Root Dammit. Because it's a government program, shouldn't I have the freedom to use my device as I want? I do use google voice because I use the free phone number to give me a wifi phone so I don't have to use my cell plan minutes. I can replace this with Talkatone but they will push ad's and I need an ad free phone experience.

  11. Anima
    June 29, 2017 at 2:45 pm

    There is an open source project to replace G. P. Services called Micro G GmsCore. I'm using it. Everything work but it depend on roms, apps and settings (:

    https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-microg-gmscore-floss-play-services-t3217616

  12. Anima
    June 19, 2017 at 8:19 pm

    Hello!
    Nice text!
    If I don't install G. P. Services, I don't get notifications from different messengers while I don't open them and it's annoying do it manually several times al hour.
    If there is not a solution, I guess that I'll use the g. p. s. but unís time taking a look to the processes.

    • Bertel King, Jr.
      June 19, 2017 at 10:41 pm

      Unfortunately, many apps use Google Play services to deliver notifications and don't offer a workaround.

    • Kyle
      September 18, 2017 at 10:31 am

      The solution is called jabber, use ChatSecure, but not the version on google play lol

  13. Anongirl
    May 28, 2017 at 5:55 pm

    Thank you for all the info. You have prob saved me in ways you can't imagine. As of today I will be Google free..

    • Bertel King, Jr.
      May 31, 2017 at 3:26 pm

      Glad to help! Care to share your own reasons for wanting to be Google free?

  14. EsheD
    April 16, 2017 at 7:17 pm

    Good article!

    I say it's possible, just install AOSP based Roms: LineageOS (formally known as CyanogenMod) / AOKP, and there are many other "Android Distros" on XDA, and don't flash Gapps!

    As for Amazon AppStore - guys, it is OK to install that alongside with F-Droid, because on AOSP Roms you always had permission managers (AppOps) even before google officially released it with Marshmallow, so you can restrict Amazon's permissions here! and if that's not enough, AOSP Roms are coming with Root privileges out of the box, so you can (and Must!) install a firewall in order to black list (block internet access) all applications except few apps you trust. Just use AFWall+
    https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=Firewall&fdid=dev.ukanth.ufirewall

    As for Gmail, you can use any email app with IMAP protocol, and for Youtube, there are alternatives like MiniTube, ot just use your web browser.

    Why AOSP based Roms? because they don't come with Google apps (Gapps) and there are no google apps and hidden services! even if you'll flash the basic version of Gapps, once you'll log into your google account, It will "contaminate" your device with background services and auto-sync to the cloud which will upload Contacts, calendar, photos, people, app data, etc. whiteout even asking you about it! and that's a bit nasty thing they do, because even Apple doesn't do that, if you log-in to your appstore on your iPhone / Mac, they won't sync your entire device / mac to the cloud, so Google must learn something from Apple here. people without tech skills who activate new Android device doesn't have clue about what's happening in the background when they log into the Play store or Gmail app, they don't know that everything from their device is uploaded to the cloud, so when a hacker gets into their account, even intimate photos are there... talking about Privacy...

    I did it in the past because I had problems with Play Services (crash) so CM with F-Droid & Amazon worked fine for me, today I'm back to Nexus device, so I still use Play store, but wanted to share with you guys that it's totally possible to enjoy Android without google.
    Too bad they don't invest in good UX for HTML5 based WebApps...

    Cheers!

    • Bertel King, Jr.
      April 17, 2017 at 8:37 pm

      Thanks for sharing this great advice!

  15. Gewalt
    April 16, 2017 at 9:12 am

    Since I use android I'm almost completely Google free. My reason for this is because Google apps run always in the background and also drains battery and ram. Why you can't fking log into apps without those play services?! Any app which has Facebook for logging in does not require Facebook app. But Google wants to be on your phone always.

  16. Joe
    April 1, 2017 at 2:49 pm

    Kind of ridiculous that you recommend Amazon app store if you want privacy. Have you read the permission list on the Amazon app? You are giving them access even to read and modify your incoming txt messages. And to make major changes to your data and access to your external memory. Why Amazon want to read my txt messages that have nothing to do with them?

  17. Mag
    January 18, 2017 at 12:13 pm

    I hope you can help me. I basically need a smartphone for texts, calls, occasional surfing (less than 100 Mb a month) and picture taking. I dont need anything else. Maybe WhatsApp very rarely to keep in touch with family. I like Android but I cannot stand Googles intrusiveness. I dont need Programs, Maps ( I know wher to go or Ill use my Magellan stand alone GPS) Location, Social Media, Music, and what not, etc. I know I can download APKs from other sources like the old .exe installers of old. So Im not worried about "missing out". How can I get a Raw Android with nothing but a Dialer, Phonebook, Text, Camera, WiFi, Data LTE with zero Google, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook? If I need anymore programs, I will find it myself.

    Ive done the root and custom OS route, but I just dont have anymore time to be hacking all day.

    Thank you.

    • anon
      February 5, 2017 at 1:43 pm

      Not sure about the rest but "WhatsApp" is one of the worst for privacy, google for more info on it, i won't use apps due to the fact they record your calls and sell your data and keep it on a file next to your name or IP etc. someone will soon corner the market for open source google alternatives im guessing, only then will i start using a smart phone with apps.
      Great article by the way, what i would like to see is some links or info on firewall type apps for android which lets us block apps outgoing connections which in theory might allow us to continue using apps while blocking the data they sent out, perhaps? i don't feel safe using any app without having more control over ingoing and outgoing connections, this is something i can easily do on a PC but not on my phone, or maybe i've just not found the right app yet.

    • Robert
      February 14, 2017 at 9:45 pm

      Hi Mag,
      What about just unmark "auto-update" , stopping apps , and let them not start when the phone boots?
      In that way you can test it.
      I have Kingo ROOT installed and AppOpsXposed. I see as well AppOps here, and I am going to give it a try. Should take me less then 30 minutes, I guess.
      And yes, I am doing this since Play Store activated all my apps to update, .....

      I'll be back here later

      • Galesh
        August 28, 2017 at 3:48 am

        If Kingo Root is the same with King Root then thats a big no no. I've used it once to to root my phone, it immediately installed unwanted apps on my phone. Upon further inspection, it also open several connection to unknown server on china.

        There's an app to remove the kingo root and replaced them with SuperSU, but I still feel 'dirty' afterward...

  18. Jonas
    January 5, 2017 at 5:20 pm

    Thanks for the article Berthel. I'm wondering how you go about to manage your contacts and/or calendars without using Google? I'm trying to minimize my use of Google, but so far I haven't found any service to replace Google Contacts and Gcal without a lot of hassle. I'm looking for a service that will sync/backup my contacts and isn't too tiresome to implement. I presume that such a service won't be free of charge

    • Dean
      January 5, 2017 at 10:19 pm

      There's Export Contact, and Import Contacts in Fdroid. It might not save the photos of your contacts, I haven't really looked at that. It doesn't sync them either, nor run periodically so you have to remember to do it. It creates a file on the sdcard. I don't remember if FolderSync requires Play Store authentication or not, but something similar can be used to automate uploading it to a cloud account or your own server using Tasker.

      It would be nice if there was something for contact syncs, as it wouldn't be difficult to automate with already existing tools, the problems above are that exporting them isn't automated with that app, and Foldersync may or may not work without Google Verification.

  19. LJ
    December 31, 2016 at 1:50 am

    I appreciate the article. I've been struggling with Google claustrophobia! I can't take a step or even turn around without bumping into Google's 'log-in' demands. I just bought a new tablet tonight, and I 'googled' (:D ) "do I really need to have a Google account to use my tablet". Google generously dropped your article right into my lap, LOL.

    • Bertel King, Jr.
      January 13, 2017 at 8:38 pm

      Haha, that's great!

  20. Rocko
    December 30, 2016 at 6:08 pm

    I thought I was the only cook who did this.. :P.. Thanks for the confidence!

    • Bertel King, Jr.
      January 13, 2017 at 8:38 pm

      I often feel the same way, so I'm happy to hear from you too!

  21. Rocko
    December 30, 2016 at 6:06 pm

    I thought I was the only cook who had done all this.. :P

  22. Devin
    December 22, 2016 at 2:52 pm

    Sounds like you want to turn your phone into a crappy version of Blackberry 10.

  23. miss
    December 18, 2016 at 2:42 pm

    but this is not only for privacy reasons, play services form google is a killing battery machine

    • Bertel King, Jr.
      January 13, 2017 at 8:39 pm

      I am loving how long my phone lasts now.

  24. Harry
    October 16, 2016 at 10:06 am

    The Google keyboard made me cringe... Chech out the permissions for that.

  25. blackberry boy
    June 26, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    Testing

  26. Xc
    June 11, 2016 at 12:22 pm

    Pretty good article!Thank you!

    • Bertel King, Jr.
      June 11, 2016 at 3:45 pm

      Glad to help. :)

  27. MerlinDaD51152
    May 7, 2016 at 7:12 am

    This article is very compelling. I came upon it while searching for methods related to setting up an Android device. The reasoning is well thought-out and discussed. I have become more aware of what options one has when delving into another spectrum of IT. I greatly appreciate the time that was expended in developing the article and kudos to those who took the time to comment.

    • Bertel King, Jr.
      May 21, 2016 at 1:22 am

      Thanks! I'm glad to help out and to see the great comments on this page.

  28. Gary
    April 17, 2016 at 4:07 pm

    Unless u can roll your own port of Linux instead Google's Android, All these are vain, been there, done that, stripped down every bit of google's service, even gave up to watch YouTube (which relies on google services framework) , but leads nowhere, just check your settings.apk with netstatplus apk. and and see how it's listening and establishing connections with google.
    even ad-away doesn't help , it uses ipv6/ipv4 both to connect Google and so far no way to disable ipv6 on android (all those sh.tty apps claiming they block ipv6 is BS, moreover they embed some their -God knows what- with root authorization to your system folder,
    short of long, you cannot get rid of Google in google's OS which is Android.

  29. Altruizine
    February 5, 2016 at 4:35 am

    A very nice article.

    People tend to literally worship their "convenience" and many if not most of them will take it any day over "inconveniences" of protecting this "illusory nonsense" called privacy. Few people realize, that in the process they quite often sacrifice not only their own privacy but also privacy of their loved ones, friends, colleagues, etc. And all of that without asking these people for their permission/opinion. But who cares, they are just "contacts": numbers, pictures, right?

    By the way, my "device" is free of Google/Amazon apps, and probably the only "features" which I did not replace are:
    - unsolicited and uncontested private data collection
    - highly uncontrolled private data distribution

    The process of getting there took me probably less time than some people are spending per day secretly playing games at "work" when their boss is away.

    And I am glad that I had, and could, execute my freedom because... since we "progress" so much, who knows how long it will be possible ;-)

    (I apologise for any grammar or semantic errors, I am still learning English).

    • andy
      September 2, 2016 at 4:41 pm

      Mate your comprehension of English is better than many native speakers I know, and I live in England XD lol, as for the rest I think you've nailed it. It would seem that some people justify their privacy being gang-banged by saying: look, they have all my data, and I'm okay, it didn't do me any harm. Which would be a perfectly valid statement if they've added "yet" at the end. Sure for now, other than marketing companies trading our data, there isn't much that would directly affect us in any adverse way. Let's entertain for a second though, that the law changes, and freedom of speech is banned completely, and if you're payong attention lately, it's already started happening.. Then the Orwel's nightmare becomes our reality. But yeah, sure, it doesnt matter that we rely more and more, and also are required to trust more and more a company that ultimately always will have its own best interest in mind. A company which has accumulated so much wealth and therefore power that it can actualy influence our laws.(I'm sure everyone is familiar with lobbying)
      Sent from my rooted, de-googled phone running cyanogenmode 12.1

  30. Fik of borg
    January 12, 2016 at 1:40 pm

    I believe that there is a simple trade-off between the benefits one receives and the personal info one have to share, be it with your bank / credit card, with your grocer, with your reading club ....or with Google (or Facebook or Dropbox for that matter).

    I find more valuable the benefits I receive from Google that the hypothetical privacy risk I allow to "let Google in". It's only mutually beneficial that Google is willing to offer those services in exchange to know that I am into electronics, astronomy and outdoors himalayan sex, which I don't care they know.

    • mg
      July 21, 2016 at 8:37 pm

      Saying "I don't need privacy, because I have nothing to hide" is just like saying "I don't need free speech, because I have nothing to say".

      • epiqpwnage
        August 14, 2016 at 8:57 am

        @mg No it is not the same. And no that's not what he said. Reading comprehension fail.

    • Peter
      September 7, 2016 at 5:17 pm

      For navigation you could try maps.me. Also based on OpenStreetMap but way more user friendly compared to osmand. It's free and open-source as well. APK is available on their website.

  31. brad
    January 6, 2016 at 5:43 pm

    Just imagine the people that use Google Fiber to connect their google devices to the google service. End to end google knows everything you do.

    • Bertel King, Jr.
      January 7, 2016 at 1:33 am

      The idea of that is what puts me off of Project Fi as well. I like Google, but that's a little much for me.

  32. Himanshu
    January 6, 2016 at 8:18 am

    Nice article man! I also went Google free a while back and seriously the thing that hit me the most was that I couldn't use many apps I love because the require play services. I found this open source version of play services by a guy named Marvin over at xda. Although its not very stable but you can check it out if you want. Just search for microg gmscore on xda it will show up.

    • Bertel King, Jr.
      January 7, 2016 at 1:50 am

      Interesting. This project wasn’t on my radar. Though, I find I don’t miss Google Play Services all that much. How is it working out for you?

      • ulmflb
        June 27, 2017 at 10:48 am

        A lot of time has passed since this article, but I wouldn't have kept a googleless android without microG. It is now far more stable (to be honest, I have never noticed any crash that could be attributed to it) and I have yet to find an app that I couldn't use (whether from AmazonStore or a downloaded apk). Just be sure to use a ROM that supports Signature Spoofing. OmniRom does it almost out of the box, otherwise you have to fiddle with the Xposed framework.

  33. Anonymous
    January 6, 2016 at 5:40 am

    Well written and thought out article! Don't you wish the U.S carriers would just let Ubuntu Phone happen here already?.. Personally I would have installed it long ago if the speeds were even up to 3g standards. The fact that they are only at 2g is the only reason I'm still on Android.

    • Bertel King, Jr.
      January 7, 2016 at 1:44 am

      Thanks! I'm not sure if I would go out and buy an Ubuntu Phone myself, but I would love to see it hit the market stateside.

    • Himanshu
      January 7, 2016 at 8:10 am

      Well can't tell about current status as I'm not using it right now, but when I did a while back things were not much stable and there were crashes here and there. But hey at least someone's trying. Maybe it gets more support and matures a little then things would be interesting

  34. Big brother
    January 6, 2016 at 4:35 am

    Only someone without any pressing demands on their time or serious responsibilities to uphold in life, I.e. A idiot hipster college student, would spend this much time working harder for less in return.

    No body cares what pr0n site you go to, what games you pirate, what conspiracy theory de jour that you believe in this week. If anything you did or knew was actually a threat to anything with real power, you would be dead already. Just like every other privacy paranoid, your greatest fear isn't actually that they are listening, but that your life is so painfully effeminate and average that Big Brother isn't even aware you ever existed. A life so plain, living it or not makes no difference.

    • Dean Guilberry
      January 12, 2016 at 1:49 pm

      Just wait until porn mail shows up in your snail mail box addressed to you and your kid is reading it.
      Or any other thing that you may have searched gets sold off to some scab. You dont think much about privacy until the day comes an you find out how someone took over your bank account or email etc.

    • Mark
      June 27, 2016 at 9:52 am

      You must be loads of fun at parties. Douchebag.

    • Corporation Killer
      March 4, 2017 at 6:22 pm

      Way to weigh in with fantastic fascist serving fantasy.

      Corporations already control those in your government, they control your police. These fascist fluffers in uniform that signed up to "protect & serve" are only serving corporations by protecting them from the people they victimize.

      My life evidently is important enough for FBI to talk to me because ITT tech (lied) requested; I'm still here & they are gone.

    • WakenedNotWeakened
      July 13, 2017 at 10:57 am

      But that's what they want you to do: spend "...much time working harder for less in return." To do this, implement slavery, they must first have control. To get control, they must first spy on everyone and everything. To make people accept an inhuman lack of privacy, they must make everyone fear terrorism or some abstract never-ending 'war'. Same as the War On Drugs which was designed to lay the ground for such human rights abuses. It's not complex logic, you just have to be willing to live in reality. Otherwise your kids will be shouldering your generation's share of the burden, and the Orwellian "boot stamping on a human face. Forever." Will be a reality. Your choice. Not the worthless-life people's. Stop projecting or reframing it to where it's none of your responsibility. It's ALL of ours.

  35. Nikolaj Knudsen
    January 5, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    He he, the author got it upside down. The reason for using Android is to get all the Google advantages :-)

    • Bertel King, Jr.
      January 7, 2016 at 1:36 am

      That is one compelling reason. I'll give you that.

      Personally I've waited years for a solid open source mobile operating system, and as it turns out, one is already here. Android just isn't marketed as such like Ubuntu Phone and Sailfish OS.

  36. Anonymous
    January 5, 2016 at 5:54 pm

    Going Google-free is probably easier with an Amazon Fire* device or something based on AOSP (Android Open Source Project). Starting without the Google Play Services Framework makes the dependencies much easier to find.

    • rocco
      October 8, 2017 at 3:44 pm

      i have an oppo, and it doesnt have any google services. in fact, they cant be installed. all chinese phones such as vivo, meizu, gionee have google completely blocked because of the security thret. i use qq to chat with my wife. and i use apk files to install programs. i dont use any app store. i just copy all my photos to a computer via usb. dont need google photos. never did.