Comments on: Safari 4: Is It Time To Switch From Firefox? http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/ Cool Websites, Software and Internet Tips Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:10:58 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Marc http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-412779 Marc Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:47:37 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-412779 Surely you are mistaken.... I was a long time FF user on all of my Windows computers. When I switched to Mac I downloaded FF immediately and had strong reservations about using it on my MacBook. It seemed clunky and unpolished. And i don't need nor care about extensions. Don't get me wrong because FF is great for what it is and it does what it's supposed to do really well. However, Safari is simple, elegant and efficient and it's my browser of choice. Surely you are mistaken…. I was a long time FF user on all of my Windows computers. When I switched to Mac I downloaded FF immediately and had strong reservations about using it on my MacBook. It seemed clunky and unpolished. And i don’t need nor care about extensions. Don’t get me wrong because FF is great for what it is and it does what it’s supposed to do really well. However, Safari is simple, elegant and efficient and it’s my browser of choice.

]]> By: Barry http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-394973 Barry Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:49:05 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-394973 "I’ve already got two bits of apple software i don’t really want on my laptop.. don’t want more" no one has made you use the software. i am presuming you chose to install it “I’ve already got two bits of apple software i don’t really want on my laptop.. don’t want more”

no one has made you use the software. i am presuming you chose to install it

]]> By: How To Set Your Browser Homepage In 5 Browsers | DodaPedia http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-394831 How To Set Your Browser Homepage In 5 Browsers | DodaPedia Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:12:14 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-394831 [...] Safari is the default browser on Mac OS X. A while ago it was also ported to Windows. I must say it’s one of the finest browsers around, but sadly underused. If you belong to the Safari-minority, this section is for you. [...] [...] Safari is the default browser on Mac OS X. A while ago it was also ported to Windows. I must say it’s one of the finest browsers around, but sadly underused. If you belong to the Safari-minority, this section is for you. [...]

]]> By: frankkkko http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391679 frankkkko Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:35:16 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391679 i love the look-and-feel of safari a lot, but i can't switch from firefox because it doesn't have a free and easy way to sync the bookmarks between more computers (like foxmarks does on firefox) and there's no way to automatically download all the images/media from a website, like i can do with flashGot or downThemAll... otherwise, it's a great browser. i love the look-and-feel of safari a lot, but i can’t switch from firefox because it doesn’t have a free and easy way to sync the bookmarks between more computers (like foxmarks does on firefox) and there’s no way to automatically download all the images/media from a website, like i can do with flashGot or downThemAll… otherwise, it’s a great browser.

]]> By: rahhb.riley http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391626 rahhb.riley Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:35:50 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391626 -In addition: Firefox's newer feature that allows you to store you password AFTER you login (or unsuccessfully login) is a big plus. If I enter something wrong on Safari, then find out it was wrong, it's just a pain in my ass to go delete it. Just one of those small things that added up with everything else, will keep me with Firefox. -In addition: Firefox’s newer feature that allows you to store you password AFTER you login (or unsuccessfully login) is a big plus. If I enter something wrong on Safari, then find out it was wrong, it’s just a pain in my ass to go delete it. Just one of those small things that added up with everything else, will keep me with Firefox.

]]> By: rahhb.riley http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391624 rahhb.riley Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:32:59 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391624 Mac User - Really trying to like and use Safari 4 cause I'm one of those lame asses that will buy anything with a shinny apple on it. But I'm afraid I can't go on, Firefox beats Safari in every aspect that is important to me. On many issues they are equal. Occasionally I have found Safari to play a few videos better (ESPN Sports center will play continuously on Safari but not FF, weird?) and will have an occasional website displayed better that FireFox for mac can't handle. But the overall speed of FF is way better than Safari. Sometimes photos on Safari may load 5-10 seconds slower than everything else. FF's add-ons will also keep me with FireFox, I just open Safari now when I need it. If Safari can fix load times and gets add-ons I'll start using it again. Mac User – Really trying to like and use Safari 4 cause I’m one of those lame asses that will buy anything with a shinny apple on it. But I’m afraid I can’t go on, Firefox beats Safari in every aspect that is important to me. On many issues they are equal. Occasionally I have found Safari to play a few videos better (ESPN Sports center will play continuously on Safari but not FF, weird?) and will have an occasional website displayed better that FireFox for mac can’t handle. But the overall speed of FF is way better than Safari. Sometimes photos on Safari may load 5-10 seconds slower than everything else. FF’s add-ons will also keep me with FireFox, I just open Safari now when I need it. If Safari can fix load times and gets add-ons I’ll start using it again.

]]> By: Wilko http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391592 Wilko Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:10:51 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391592 i've used safari 4 for some time and it just is faster. no doubt. but i'm switching again to FireFox because of (a) the add-ons and (b) some of my daily routine websites aren't optimalized for safari 4, like my bank. the 2nd point annoys me the most. i’ve used safari 4 for some time and it just is faster. no doubt. but i’m switching again to FireFox because of (a) the add-ons and (b) some of my daily routine websites aren’t optimalized for safari 4, like my bank. the 2nd point annoys me the most.

]]> By: Jae B. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391590 Jae B. Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:46:46 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391590 Yes, it's time to switch from Firefox...to Flock. Like Safari, it's more streamlined and less sluggish than Firefox. But because it's based on Firefox, the best of Firefox's famed extensions work on Flock. Also, Flock has nifty built-in social networking apps, so you can spend more time surfing the web and less time trying to stay "checked in" on multiple networking sites. I've been using Flock for about four years (beta versions), and it is by far my favorite browser, and I've extensively used Firefox, Safari (including trying Safari 4), AOL, IE, Seamonkey, and even Opera. Flock is not only a fun browser; it's fast, it's useful, and it's getting better with every new version. Yes, it’s time to switch from Firefox…to Flock. Like Safari, it’s more streamlined and less sluggish than Firefox. But because it’s based on Firefox, the best of Firefox’s famed extensions work on Flock. Also, Flock has nifty built-in social networking apps, so you can spend more time surfing the web and less time trying to stay “checked in” on multiple networking sites. I’ve been using Flock for about four years (beta versions), and it is by far my favorite browser, and I’ve extensively used Firefox, Safari (including trying Safari 4), AOL, IE, Seamonkey, and even Opera. Flock is not only a fun browser; it’s fast, it’s useful, and it’s getting better with every new version.

]]> By: Howie http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391572 Howie Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:41:23 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391572 Then why read this article? Then why read this article?

]]> By: Michael http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391565 Michael Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:33:17 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391565 "I will stay with my Firefox, firstly because of add-ons, <strong>secondly because of its minimum RAM usage</strong>." BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Firefox routinely grabs over 400 MBs from my system with just one window and 8 tabs open. Just let it sit for awhile. It'll find a way to take your RAM. “I will stay with my Firefox, firstly because of add-ons, secondly because of its minimum RAM usage.”

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Firefox routinely grabs over 400 MBs from my system with just one window and 8 tabs open. Just let it sit for awhile. It’ll find a way to take your RAM.

]]> By: 8498693 http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391563 8498693 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:19:45 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391563 I think Firefox is outstanding and have no use for anything Apple. I think Firefox is outstanding and have no use for anything Apple.

]]> By: Mike Jackiw http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391547 Mike Jackiw Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:32:04 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391547 I have used all the browsers and the problem with Firefox is, like IE, it's grown too big and is doing too much. People keep talking about add-ons, widgets, etc. Are you using a web browser or an OS? Firefox has never really fixed it's memory leak (not even in 3.5) and it still can't fully pass acid3 or javascripting tests. That being said Safari 3 sucked. It was slow, failed most tests, and didn't perform even as well as IE6. But Safari 4 is a different story. It's tight, it is the only browser that passes all test 100% and is fully compatible with IE-centric sites, and it's FAST. Opera fails all the tests miserably with IE8 even worse. I have now switched to Safari 4 on my WinXP, Win7, and OSX boxes and am not looking back. I have used all the browsers and the problem with Firefox is, like IE, it’s grown too big and is doing too much. People keep talking about add-ons, widgets, etc. Are you using a web browser or an OS? Firefox has never really fixed it’s memory leak (not even in 3.5) and it still can’t fully pass acid3 or javascripting tests.

That being said Safari 3 sucked. It was slow, failed most tests, and didn’t perform even as well as IE6. But Safari 4 is a different story. It’s tight, it is the only browser that passes all test 100% and is fully compatible with IE-centric sites, and it’s FAST. Opera fails all the tests miserably with IE8 even worse. I have now switched to Safari 4 on my WinXP, Win7, and OSX boxes and am not looking back.

]]> By: Ben http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391546 Ben Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:22:41 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391546 People who suddenly decide they can do without extensions and switch from Firefox 3 to Browser X have far more impetus to switch to Google Chrome rather than Safari 4. Short of the occasional widget, Safari's real strengths are its rendering engine and its javascript engine, both of which are met or exceeded by Chrome. People who suddenly decide they can do without extensions and switch from Firefox 3 to Browser X have far more impetus to switch to Google Chrome rather than Safari 4.

Short of the occasional widget, Safari’s real strengths are its rendering engine and its javascript engine, both of which are met or exceeded by Chrome.

]]> By: Jason http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391545 Jason Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:21:32 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391545 Firefox 3 does, in fact, work with Aero Peak. I am using it right now on Win 7 RC1 Build 7100. It also worked with the Public Beta version. Firefox 3 does, in fact, work with Aero Peak. I am using it right now on Win 7 RC1 Build 7100. It also worked with the Public Beta version.

]]> By: Simon http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391537 Simon Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:06:54 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391537 Since I am using a Macbook, I decided to try the beta version of Safari 4. While I liked the new interface, it just wasn't enough for me to make want to switch. Since then, I have noticed some improvement after it came out of beta. However, I still prefer Firefox for a couple reasons. It may be slower, but has a whole library of add-ons that will always keep it in front. Second, it is cross-platform, so Firefox looks great no matter what OS you're using. Apple software tend to be better on Apple products. Lastly, Firefox has constant updates and brings new features when they are needed. Since I am using a Macbook, I decided to try the beta version of Safari 4. While I liked the new interface, it just wasn’t enough for me to make want to switch. Since then, I have noticed some improvement after it came out of beta. However, I still prefer Firefox for a couple reasons. It may be slower, but has a whole library of add-ons that will always keep it in front. Second, it is cross-platform, so Firefox looks great no matter what OS you’re using. Apple software tend to be better on Apple products. Lastly, Firefox has constant updates and brings new features when they are needed.

]]> By: Richard http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391518 Richard Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:21:16 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391518 Switch to Safari from Firefox? Surely this is only intended as link bait. No rational, experienced computer user would ever consider Safari as superior to Firefox, especially with Firefox 3.5rc3 and the final version soon to be released. Switch to Safari from Firefox? Surely this is only intended as link bait. No rational, experienced computer user would ever consider Safari as superior to Firefox, especially with Firefox 3.5rc3 and the final version soon to be released.

]]> By: jacekkr http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391333 jacekkr Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:26:55 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391333 I've been using Safari 4 as my primary browser for a while now just to try it. While I like the integration with Windows 7's Aero interface, the UI, speed and reliability (it hasn't locked up or slowed down too much yet), I just hate the way it handles tabs. Opening a few more tabs than the width of your screen makes it possible renders Safari 4 virtually unusable. I’ve been using Safari 4 as my primary browser for a while now just to try it. While I like the integration with Windows 7’s Aero interface, the UI, speed and reliability (it hasn’t locked up or slowed down too much yet), I just hate the way it handles tabs. Opening a few more tabs than the width of your screen makes it possible renders Safari 4 virtually unusable.

]]> By: Miguel Wickert http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391330 Miguel Wickert Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:06:17 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391330 I use both. Firefox 3.5 seems faster on my Macbook than Safari 4. It's close but I'm a fan of Ubiquity, along with tons of other Firefox extensions. :) Again, I still use both because for me, Safari is less of a distraction. -Mig I use both. Firefox 3.5 seems faster on my Macbook than Safari 4. It’s close but I’m a fan of Ubiquity, along with tons of other Firefox extensions. :) Again, I still use both because for me, Safari is less of a distraction.

-Mig

]]> By: jollyrogue http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391319 jollyrogue Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:27:25 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391319 Firefox 3.5 is faster than safari 4 on my laptop.. i'll be sticking with FF and uninstalling safari.. waste of bandwidth. I've already got two bits of apple software i don't really want on my laptop.. don't want more Firefox 3.5 is faster than safari 4 on my laptop.. i’ll be sticking with FF and uninstalling safari.. waste of bandwidth.

I’ve already got two bits of apple software i don’t really want on my laptop.. don’t want more

]]> By: Tom2 http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391317 Tom2 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:02:01 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391317 Safari 4 is by far the better choice. Safari 4 is by far the better choice.

]]> By: tayker http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391311 tayker Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:59:09 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391311 I switched from Firefox to Safari 4 and am happy with my decision. On any computer I have (Windows XP/Vista, Mac OS X, Linux Mint) Firefox becomes sluggish after an hour of use, so I have to close it - sometimes using Task Manager or killing a process - and reopen it. Even though Safari 4 might be comparable with Firefox IRT memory, I've had a browser open all day without any issues. Also, nothing aggravates me more than trying to type something up online and Firefox suddenly closes. It feels good not having to have a text editor open when I'm surfing the web. I switched from Firefox to Safari 4 and am happy with my decision.

On any computer I have (Windows XP/Vista, Mac OS X, Linux Mint) Firefox becomes sluggish after an hour of use, so I have to close it – sometimes using Task Manager or killing a process – and reopen it. Even though Safari 4 might be comparable with Firefox IRT memory, I’ve had a browser open all day without any issues. Also, nothing aggravates me more than trying to type something up online and Firefox suddenly closes. It feels good not having to have a text editor open when I’m surfing the web.

]]> By: jer http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391305 jer Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:10:34 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391305 You didn't say anything about security issues with Safari. You didn’t say anything about security issues with Safari.

]]> By: Mike Woodhouse http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391304 Mike Woodhouse Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:02:54 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391304 No Firebug, no sale. As a "power" user, I'd be loathe to install Safari anyway, having had less-than stellar experiences with other Apple apps on Windows - I just don't like the rude way they assume they know best. Maybe QuickTime and iTunes are the only bad Apples, but twice bitten, thrice shy. No Firebug, no sale.

As a “power” user, I’d be loathe to install Safari anyway, having had less-than stellar experiences with other Apple apps on Windows – I just don’t like the rude way they assume they know best. Maybe QuickTime and iTunes are the only bad Apples, but twice bitten, thrice shy.

]]> By: BooDy http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391302 BooDy Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:44:55 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391302 @ Phaoloo: u gotta try Firefox 3.5 its lighter than before! @ Phaoloo:
u gotta try Firefox 3.5
its lighter than before!

]]> By: Aoi_sora9x http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391295 Aoi_sora9x Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:31:56 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391295 I will stay with my Firefox, firstly because of add-ons, secondly because of its minimum RAM usage. I know RAMs are cheap nowadays, but as a person who runs 2 2D graphic softwares (usually Photoshop and Manga Studio) and 1 3D graphic software (C4D) at the same time, I just don't have RAM to spare. Moreover, the eye-candies are too much IMO. :/ and i don't like the way Apple abuses the cover flow. It hasn't ever been the most practical function, and it feels cheap after a while. :/ and i find this statement a bit intriguing: "But to many people, that statement was justified – OS X was considerably ahead of Windows from a design and usability standpoint." It all depends on ur taste for the UI, and what you do with ur computer. I think you are just assuming too much here. I will stay with my Firefox, firstly because of add-ons, secondly because of its minimum RAM usage. I know RAMs are cheap nowadays, but as a person who runs 2 2D graphic softwares (usually Photoshop and Manga Studio) and 1 3D graphic software (C4D) at the same time, I just don’t have RAM to spare.

Moreover, the eye-candies are too much IMO. :/ and i don’t like the way Apple abuses the cover flow. It hasn’t ever been the most practical function, and it feels cheap after a while. :/

and i find this statement a bit intriguing:

“But to many people, that statement was justified – OS X was considerably ahead of Windows from a design and usability standpoint.”

It all depends on ur taste for the UI, and what you do with ur computer. I think you are just assuming too much here.

]]> By: Phaoloo http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/safari-4-is-it-time-to-switch-from-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-391290 Phaoloo Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:54:46 +0000 http://www.makeuseof.com/?p=19290#comment-391290 Really want to switch from Firefox, but how about the add-ons? That's why many people still have to stick with Firefox. Really want to switch from Firefox, but how about the add-ons? That’s why many people still have to stick with Firefox.

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