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Windows 10 is now a recommended update for Windows 7 and 8.1 How to Block the Aggressive Windows 10 Upgrade on Windows 7 and 8.1 How to Block the Aggressive Windows 10 Upgrade on Windows 7 and 8.1 Microsoft ramps up its efforts to make users upgrade to Windows 10. Come 2016, many people will wake up to a new operating system, despite never having consented to the upgrade. Don't be one of... Read More . Those who haven’t upgraded yet, will once more be prompted to install Microsoft’s latest operating system. If updates are set to download automatically, Windows 10 will be hogging around 5 GB of space while you decide whether or not to install it.

If you’re not keen on running Windows 10 or if your Internet bandwidth is limited, it’s high time to take action. Windows 10 could already be downloading in the background. Stop it now!

What Happened Previously

In late October, Microsoft’s Executive Vice President Terry Myerson announced that the upgrade to Windows 10 will become easier.

Early next year, we expect to be re-categorizing Windows 10 as a “Recommended Update”. Depending upon your Windows Update settings, this may cause the upgrade process to automatically initiate on your device. Before the upgrade changes the OS of your device, you will be clearly prompted to choose whether or not to continue.

He also reassured users that they will be able to decline the upgrade offer or roll back to their previous Windows version within 31 days.

Why This Upgrade Remains Problematic

Undermining User Choice

Windows 10 now comes disguised as an everyday Windows update. Even though the Get Windows 10 notification has been pestering users for months, this new approach will certainly fool users into upgrading. One might suspect that this is the whole point because anyone who wanted to upgrade could have done so since July last year.

While users have to Accept the Windows 10 License Terms before the upgrade starts, it’s not immediately clear what is being accepted or declined. Note how the window is called Windows Update and the first mention of Windows 10 is in the small print.

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Windows 10 Upgrade Decline Accept 2

Once a user clicks Decline, the process is aborted, but the optional update and the installation files will hang around, waiting to be triggered again.

If you click Accept, the upgrade actually won’t start immediately. Windows will prepare things in the background, scan for apps that have to be removed prior to upgrading, and then inform you that the upgrade is ready to install. This time, not a single word about Windows 10. And at that point, it looks like you can no longer opt out.

Windows Upgrade Ready to Install

Neither the Taskbar, nor the Task Manager will let you abort the upgrade. Your only option is to schedule the upgrade for later. Restarting will immediately initiate the upgrade.

Schedule Windows 10 Upgrade

Even if you manage to escape the Windows 10 vortex, by the time you’re asked whether you want to upgrade, much of the damage has been done.

The Windows 10 installation files take up almost 5 GB of disk space. Freeing up that space is easy — we show you how below –, but try to get back your 3 GB of Internet bandwidth it took to download Windows 10. If you weren’t wise enough to set Windows Update to let you choose whether to download or schedule downloads for free bandwidth times, you’re screwed.

Touting Security

Microsoft’s Marketings Chief Chris Capossela argued on Windows Weekly that Windows 10 is a much better place than its predecessors. In part due to novel features, such as support for modern hardware and games, but also because of improved security.

We do worry when people are running an operating system that’s 10 years old that the next printer they buy isn’t going to work well, or they buy a new game, they buy Fallout 4, a very popular game, and it doesn’t work on a bunch of older machines. And so, as we are pushing our ISV [Independent Software Vendor] and hardware partners to build great new stuff that takes advantage of Windows 10, that obviously makes the old stuff really bad, and not to mention viruses and security problems.

Security is a moot point. Windows 7 and 8.1 are on extended support until 2020 and 2023, respectively. In fact, Windows 8.1 is on mainstream support until 2018.

Windows Support Lifecycle

While Windows 7 won’t receive new features, such as support for Direct X 12, it will receive security patches and hotfixes for several more years. With these support lifecycles, Microsoft guarantees the basic security and functionality of their operating systems.

Meanwhile, Windows 10 isn’t flawless. It may offer novel features and improved security, but it’s also laden with privacy issues Everything You Need to Know About Windows 10's Privacy Issues Everything You Need to Know About Windows 10's Privacy Issues While Windows 10 has some issues that users need to be aware of, many claims have been blown out of proportion. Here's our guide to everything you need to know about Windows 10's privacy issues. Read More , will strain your bandwidth with large updates, can auto-remove apps Windows 10 Can Auto-Remove Software Against Your Will Windows 10 Can Auto-Remove Software Against Your Will Windows 10 is uninstalling software it doesn't consider compatible. Have you been affected? We show you which applications you could lose and why. Read More , is said to be spying on its users Windows 10 Is Watching: Should You Be Worried? Windows 10 Is Watching: Should You Be Worried? Since its release, Windows 10 has been dogged by rumors concerning user privacy. Some of these are accurate, whereas others are myths. But where does Windows 10 stand on privacy, really? Read More , and finds ever new ways of serving ads How to Ban Windows 10 Ads & NSFW Content from Your Desktop How to Ban Windows 10 Ads & NSFW Content from Your Desktop Windows 10 may be crossing a line with desktop ads and NSFW content. Microsoft and third-party developers can push promotional material directly onto your desktop. We show you how you can defend yourself. Read More . And most importantly, you’ll still have to use third party tools to fend off viruses and malware What Security Software Should You Be Using in Windows 10? What Security Software Should You Be Using in Windows 10? Despite being bundled with its own security tool, Windows 10 needs additional software to keep your data secure and make your online experiences safe. But which security software should you choose for WIndows 10? Read More .

How to NOT Upgrade

If you’re on the fence about Windows 10 or violently opposing the upgrade, here’s what you need to do to stay with your preferred Windows version.

Disable Recommended Updates

Head to Windows Update Windows Update: Everything You Need to Know Windows Update: Everything You Need to Know Is Windows Update enabled on your PC? Windows Update protects you from security vulnerabilities by keeping Windows, Internet Explorer, and Microsoft Office up-to-date with the latest security patches and bug fixes. Read More and check your settings. Press the Windows key, type Windows Update, and select the respective search result. If you catch Windows 10 downloading, cancel it by hitting Stop download.

Upgrade to Windows 10 in Windows 7 Download

From the sidebar, select Change settings and under the Recommended updates header, remove the checkmark to “Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates.” Click OK to confirm your changes.

Back on the general Windows Update window, select Check for updates and wait until the checking has completed. If Windows 10 has not been downloaded to your system, yet, what you see should resemble the screenshot below.

Upgrade to Windows 10 in Windows 7

Click Show all available updates, switch to the Optional tab, and find the Upgrade to Windows 10 update. Remove the checkmark, right-click the update, and select Hide update. Now you won’t accidentally download Windows 10 the next time you’re installing optional updates.

Hide Windows 10 Update

Reclaim Disk Space

Should Windows 10 have partially downloaded, you can reclaim the space.

Head to Windows / File Explorer, right click your system drive, select Properties > Disk Cleanup, and wait for the scan to finish. From the results window, select Clean up system files, wait for a second scan, make sure Temporary Windows installation files is checked, click OK, and finally Delete Files to free up the space Low Disk Space? 5 Native Windows Tools To Free Up Storage Space Low Disk Space? 5 Native Windows Tools To Free Up Storage Space Don't download a fishy third party tool to reclaim valuable disk space! Windows has its own tools for the job and they're easy to use. Read More .

Windows Disk Cleanup

Block Windows 10 Upgrade

Even if you have disabled Recommended updates, chances are Microsoft will keep pushing you to upgrade. Eventually, you’ll get tired of closing the upgrade notifications or disabling updates. Shut them down right now.

GWX Control Panel

GWX Control Panel will remove the Get Windows 10 notification from your system tray, disable the respective update, and also deal with the Upgrade to Windows 10 option in Windows Update.

GWX Control Panel

Aegis Script

This powerful script does a little more than blocking the Windows 10 upgrade. It also disables the GWX system tray notification, OneDrive, Telemetry, and a host of other “features”, hides the Windows 10 download directory, uninstalls and hides updates, disables scheduled tasks phoning home to Microsoft, blocks Microsoft-related hosts, and adjusts your Windows Update settings to notify you before downloading or installing available updates. It’s pretty radical, but thoroughly tested.

To run the script, download the master.zip, unzip, right-click aegis.cmd, select Run as administrator, and follow the on-screen instructions. The tool will create a system restore point before it runs.

Aegis Script

You can see a full desription and a list of updates that will be disabled on their Voat page. The script was updated in February to deal with the recent Windows 10 update developments.

Downgrade from Windows 10

You accidentally upgraded to Windows 10 How You Could Have Upgraded to Windows 10 by Accident & What to Do How You Could Have Upgraded to Windows 10 by Accident & What to Do Windows 10 was accidentally auto-installed on Windows 7 and 8.1 machines without user consent. Microsoft apologized for the mistake. We analyze the events and show you once more how to NOT get Windows 10. Read More or regret your choice? You’re not the first person. Fortunately, Windows 10 has a built-in safety net called Recovery. Within 31 days of the upgrade, you can roll back to your old Windows setup.

Joe Keeley has previously outlined how to downgrade from Windows 10 Windows 7 or 8.1 How to Downgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 7 or 8.1 How to Downgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 7 or 8.1 Windows 10 is here and maybe it's not what you expected. If you already upgraded, you can perform a rollback. And if you haven't yet, create a system backup first. We show you how. Read More . Briefly, press the keyboard shortcut Windows key + I to launch the Settings app, head to Update & Security > Recovery, find the option to Go back to Windows…, and click Get started. From there on out, follow the on-screen instructions.

windows 10 recovery

Note that once you delete the Windows.old folder Free Up Disk Space by Removing Windows.old Folder Free Up Disk Space by Removing Windows.old Folder Windows prepares an automatic backup before you re-install. The Windows.old folder includes user profiles and personal files. Here's how to restore the data and remove the folder to free up space. Read More , you won’t be able to downgrade anymore. In that case, your only hope is to install your old Windows version from scratch. Hopefully, you have your original product key Four Places to Find Your Windows 8 Product Key Four Places to Find Your Windows 8 Product Key With Windows 8, finding the 25-digit product key got harder. But you still need it to download installation media or install on a machine that didn't come pre-installed with Windows 8. Read More and Windows installation files How to Legally Download Windows Installation Files for Free How to Legally Download Windows Installation Files for Free Windows can get seriously broken. What you often need to do is to install it from scratch. And we show you how to get legal installation files for Windows 7 through 10. Read More at hand.

Upgrade If You Can

With all of this said, we think that the average user should upgrade while Windows 10 is free. In addition to privacy concerns, the only reason to not upgrade is if you depend on software that is no longer supported in Windows 10, such as Windows Media Center. Although note that many missing features can be resurrected 5 Lost Features You Can Resurrect in Windows 10 5 Lost Features You Can Resurrect in Windows 10 Windows 10 is quite different and chances are you're missing a few familiar features. Did you lose Windows Media Center, DVD support, or classic games during the upgrade? We may have a solution for you! Read More .

Windows 10 is delived through Windows Update and the process is smooth for most users, though we strongly recommend a clean installation using the Windows 10 Media Creation Tool How to Install Windows 10 for Free on any Windows, Linux, or OS X PC How to Install Windows 10 for Free on any Windows, Linux, or OS X PC You don't have to upgrade to Windows 10 to try it. Whether you qualify for the free upgrade or want to try Windows 10 on Linux or OS X, you can evaluate it for free. Read More to avoid nasty bugs. You can still take all your apps and settings with you How to Upgrade to Windows 10 & Take Settings and Apps with You How to Upgrade to Windows 10 & Take Settings and Apps with You Windows 10 is coming and you have a choice to make. Either you upgrade your existing Windows installation, or you can install Windows 10 from scratch. We show you how to migrate to Windows 10... Read More .

Will Windows 10 Prevail?

In January, Windows 10’s market share (11.85%) finally overtook Windows 8.1 (10.4%) and Windows XP (11.42%). It still has a long way to go until it will catch up with Windows 7 (52.47%).

Serious efforts will be needed on Microsoft’s part before the free upgrade expires in July this year. And pushy updates are just the tool to introduce hesitant users to Windows 10, where forced updates How to Manage Windows Update in Windows 10 How to Manage Windows Update in Windows 10 For control freaks, Windows Update is a nightmare. It's designed to operate in the background, automatically keeping your system safe and running smoothly. We show you how it works and what you can customize. Read More are the norm.

What do you think? Is Microsoft being of service or are they taking their upgrade mania too far? Share your thoughts in the comments and let’s discuss!

  1. Acony
    August 12, 2016 at 4:36 am

    Towards the end of July I tried installing Win10 and the installation failed and hung up. Hit the power button and the update continued but hung again. Hit power button once more and this time the installation automatically rolled back without problems. What a relief! I decided to continue with 8.1

    Except today the updater automatically started the installation of Win10 again and asks me to restart to finish installation. Apparently because I was unsure about how to delete the upgrade package and left them lying around, then didn't hide the update, Microsoft decided I must want it after all (even though it's well past the July 28 deadline). Is there any way I can stop it without going through the nerve wracking process of the computer hanging twice and then (hopefully) seeing the update rolled back?

    • Acony
      August 12, 2016 at 6:13 am

      Never mind, i couldn't relax until I actually went through with it, but after a suspiciously quick installation process it booted straight into windows 8.1 (no sign of Win10).

      The update history shows only updates for windows 8.1 were installed. It appears somebody at Microsoft had the brains to understand that if the Win10 upgrade failed once then it's unlikely to succeed on the second try. I just don't understand why they couldn't have the system check for a past rollback before subjecting users to a message about Win10 being ready to install.

    • Tina Sieber
      August 12, 2016 at 9:41 am

      Wow, it really attempted to install Windows 10?

      Glad it didn't wreck anything for you!

  2. Andie Z
    August 11, 2016 at 3:25 pm

    I tried Windows 10 on two computers in our office. We could not function with Windows 10 because some of the programs we rely upon would not work with Windows 10. Actually, we consider Windows 10 a virus for us. It certainly acts like one.

    • Tina Sieber
      August 12, 2016 at 9:42 am

      Yes, Windows 10 certainly had some viral tendencies. Fortunately, it's no longer contagious. :)

  3. bill richards
    August 10, 2016 at 1:10 am

    windows 10 is bad. its a good operating system but microsoft totally spies on everything you do. if you have any pirated software it will shut it down. really bad.

    i think it is a total invasion of privacy

    they force every upgrade on you now

    • bill richards
      August 10, 2016 at 1:11 am

      if i had to choose again i would not have upgraded from windows 7.

      • Tina Sieber
        August 10, 2016 at 10:01 am

        Did you end up downgrading, Bill? If not, why?

        • bill richards
          August 11, 2016 at 12:35 pm

          it will be a huge project to downgrade.
          take a day or 2 and i would have to figure it out
          instead i have used software that so far has stopped microsoft from attacking me
          just to do that took a day
          and 4 software packages
          starting with KMS and spybot

          telemetry should be against the law

  4. James W
    August 8, 2016 at 2:43 am

    I might be late to the party for this and i might not have the most insightful comments. However, my recent experiences have been poor to say the least. I just started getting a weird update failure telling me that i had a windows 10 update failure when i did my best to block windows 10 and ignore it and since i do not install recommended updates almost ever i have to wonder how it managed to happen. I have so far spent 10+ hours rummaging around the internet in search of a fix and even going through Microshafts KB articles looking for a way to "fix" windows update so it will get back on track. So far i have tried several of their suggestions and had no luck, but i can say this. If they continue in this fashion they will push me away from using windows. i am by no means an apple fanboy or a Linux Techno-Geek but i have noticed that in the past few years a lot more has been developed for other OS'. Maybe its just me being tired but the way i see it if they (Microsoft) continue to be this careless they just might convenience themselves out of customers.

    • Tina Sieber
      August 10, 2016 at 10:07 am

      Thank you for reaching out, James! I'm not quite sure I understand. Did your system upgrade to Windows 10?

      Depending on what you use your computer for, Chromebooks are an affordable and user friendly alternative to Windows. They won't run desktop software, but for people who just use their system to open a browser, consume media, read, or process simple documents (Google Docs is amazing), Chrome OS is more than enough. And it does work when it's offline.

      What must be said though is that Android, Chrome OS, and OS X also update automatically and force updates on users. It's just more accepted because these operating systems have been doing it forever.

  5. JSJohnsohn
    July 30, 2016 at 5:57 pm

    Ok, I updated/installed the Windows 10. Now none of the Microsoft office products are accessible. That is, I cannot open word or excell at all. Any suggestions?

    • Tina Sieber
      July 30, 2016 at 6:05 pm

      Which version of Office did you have installed?

      • billy budd
        August 1, 2016 at 9:41 pm

        I have the same problem. Any suggestions?

        • Tina Sieber
          August 8, 2016 at 6:30 am

          Billy, which version of Office did you have installed?

  6. David Aurand
    July 30, 2016 at 1:22 pm

    I actually tried to download and install Windows 10 yesterday, but kept getting the deeply insightful message "Something went wrong, try again later." Sheesh.

    • Tina Sieber
      July 30, 2016 at 4:58 pm

      Servers must have been overloaded yesterday. All those last minute upgrades! If you would still like to download Windows 10 for free, try the version for people who need assistive services.

  7. chriffan
    July 29, 2016 at 10:14 pm

    On this, the stated final day of the "free" upgrade, I am happy to find that GWX control panel has kept me free of the W10 nagware and most of the installation files and folders. It could not, however, remove the bloatware, telemetry and spyware put onto my system through forced updates. Yes, forced. I have the Windows update settings on "Never check for updates". Why?

    Could it be the updates that bundled telemetry and spyware in with the necessary kb's? Maybe it was finding the hidden folders that I couldn't get access to without taking ownership of them first? How about that folder that secretly downloaded containing 3+ gigs of unwanted, non-consensual files? Would it bother you to find an "alternate data stream" sending something to someone. How about the updates I uninstalled, then hid and found they magically reinstalled over night? Perhaps it's the secretly installed kb's found after I last ran the newest update. There were 5 updates I found that didn't show up in the list of the updates and had never been installed or offered. How is that ok? Is it the mark of a legitimate business to trick, deceive, obfuscate and outright lie to its customers?

    I've spent hours looking for the descriptions of what the new kb's are for, without success because Microsoft has adopted a don't ask, don't tell policy. The numerous BSOD's from kernel data inpage errors, that cost me more time to research and fix, were caused by a driver Microsoft installed, supposedly to make my upgrade smoother. Thanks a heap Microsoft for considering your customers desire for a easier transition, incredible.

    I'm not a gamer, don't give a care about facebook, twitter, skype and any other bloatware loaded onto my computer without my consent. The last time I updated, I had the 5 afore mentioned kb's along with the forced and previously uninstalled security update through Windows Defender update. Why not give us the choice of apps we want instead of loading the space wasting junk you want us to use? It's a rhetorical question, of course. They are a for profit entity, after all.

    Which brings me to the statement of free till July 29, after you'll have to pay for this (expletive withheld) ! Are you serious? Wait, you want me to pay you for the privilege of Windows 10 so you can invade my privacy, collect my data (anonymously, of course), force whatever you want onto my system and bog down my system while you pull that info from or download whatever to my computer? Then again, in Windows 10 I can view popup ads of products you're touting regardless of my need or wishes while in the middle of whatever I'm doing. Thanks, but I've spent time researching and installing "no script" and "ad blockers" to stop this annoyance. Now you want me to believe this mess is much better and more secure than before.

    I'm not naive enough to blindly believe the "anonomous" collection of data. I sit incredulous that after all the BS, Microsoft is viewed as trustworthy at any level. That said, anonymous is a word I've learned that can come back to bite you in the behind. Maybe it is anonymous, for now. How would you know? Is it anonymous and safe from a hacker? Once your info leaves your computer, it becomes accessible to anyone with the ability to hack the "cloud". It's no longer under your control. Where is the best place for a hacker to get a lot of useful information? Do you really believe the data is safer in someone elses hands? I've recently heard a quote from an online cyber security expert stating (not verbatim), There are two types of companies, those that have been hacked and those who don't know they've been hacked.

    To those who counter with the "Google and Apple have been doing this for years" how do you know your information is safe? Do you know for sure, 100%? Would they tell you of any breach? Once you give up control of your data... Sure, those other companies have been doing it for years but just because something's accepted doesn't make it acceptable. Giving over your rights to your privacy and information may not be a concern for you, it is for me.

    Having the choice of what is or isn't on my system is important as well. After the hours I've spent researching, uninstalling the telemetry, bloatware and spyware, and installing W10 blocking apps and batch files I had to run I'm happy to say goodbye to Microsoft. When this computer dies or support ends for my current version, I will happily move on.

    Thank you, Microsoft, for making the transition easier.

    • Tina Sieber
      July 30, 2016 at 4:57 pm

      Thank you for your extensive comment, Chriffan!

      I wish I could say that you're wrong, but I couldn't prove it. I still have hope for Windows (10), but I can only shake my head at how Microsoft has been treating its customers.

  8. P. Schwinn
    July 22, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    Now the windows icon is on my task bar with a count down clock. I keep clicking on "decline" because of the all the horror stories I have read and continue to read. This is not aggressive marketing - this is outright bullying. And companies wonder why they are hated when they behave like 2 year old snot nosed brats ????????????

    • Tina Sieber
      July 24, 2016 at 1:24 am

      It will all be over in a few days. Fingers crossed.

      • P. Schwinn
        July 24, 2016 at 2:34 am

        Yes, I am keeping my fingers crossed. Although I have also read comments on this forum and other forums where people declined but Microsoft still went ahead and installed Windows 10. They keep telling us we have 30 days to go back but I don't trust them. Call me a cynic !!!!

  9. old toothless byter
    July 19, 2016 at 9:09 pm

    A risk I keep warning small business owners about is that under Win7 I could run two essential XP biz software either in the XPmode or Virtual Machine XP. Win10 appears to make no clear promises that this ability will continue into the future.
    Obviously the software co's would love to sell us the newest updates - however, as our biz CLOSED two years ago, I only need to keep alive the running software just in case of a tax audit issue, and have no need to spend thousands just for this contingency, nor have a means of deducting such expense from offsetting revenue, since the biz has neither revenue nor a separate tax filing any longer. A similar situation must be the case for literally thousands of other small biz owners who shut down in the past 1-3 years and were running fine on WinXP to the end.
    This underscores the difference between those using computers for InfoTainment, ie giant app toys, and those still actually doing Real Work with them. The first group may just love the next great thing, and have no budget issues apparently; the second group actually made a living frugally, kluging every ancient matrix printer and fax/scanner until they died, and realizing that half their perfectly usable devices no longer functioned on newer OSes.
    THAT is why I think small business owners have a right to sue as a class, entirely separate from issues regarding forced upgrades. Tell all your friends.

    • Tina Sieber
      July 20, 2016 at 6:43 pm

      Thank you for your insightful comment!

      It's sad to see something as "harmless" as an operating system upgrade or end of support hurt small businesses so much.

  10. Rocco
    July 13, 2016 at 7:18 pm

    I believe if you upgrade to Windows 10 while it is free then rollback to windows 7 you can go back to windows 10 at any later time. Even after 7/29/16. The key is getting your windows 10 a product key from microsoft. A good time would be in 2020 when windows 7 support ends. If anyone knows for a fact this is incorrect please speak up. I just did this procedure on my machines.

    • Tina Sieber
      July 14, 2016 at 4:22 am

      That's right, Rocco. Once you upgraded to Windows 10, your hardware is digitally entitled to Windows 10 and registered in a Microsoft database. When you install Windows 10 again, it should activate automatically.

  11. Jimbocous
    July 13, 2016 at 4:13 am

    I'm not Microsoft will ever recover from the public relations disaster they have created with the GWX program.

    • Tina Sieber
      July 14, 2016 at 4:21 am

      They probably will, but it might cost them quite a bit of money until then if more people sue them over it.

  12. JC
    June 22, 2016 at 7:52 pm

    This way of handling an "upgrade"is intrusive, insulting, disruptive, time-consuming, costly and frustrating. How is this supposed to be easy, user-friendly, or good customer service? Really bad move, Microsoft. My next upgrade will be with someone other than you.

    • Tina Sieber
      June 23, 2016 at 4:26 pm

      Microsoft's vision is that once you are on Windows 10, the automatic security updates will be more secure and user friendly. Of course, the way they are getting people to upgrade to Windows 10 is very radical.

      I'm not surprised this is alienating users like yourself. But I guess those are the users Microsoft can't profit from anyway if they were to use Windows 10.

  13. MU
    June 18, 2016 at 3:18 pm

    When I downloaded GWX, my virus software (360 Total Security) quarantined it with a warning that it had a Trojan virus. Anyone else have that happen?

    • Tina Sieber
      June 19, 2016 at 7:02 pm

      Probably a false positive because GWX changes system settings, like disabling Recommended Windows updates.

  14. Kyokkai
    June 16, 2016 at 8:17 pm

    Microsoft is disgusting. I personally refuse to have my choices made for me and that's why I will forever reject Windows 10. It is an instrument of control, they want to monitor us and demand that we receive all their updates.

    No. They will make a product that is beneficial to the customer and unintrusive or they will not have my money, it's simple.

    I have bought Windows ONLY because it's convenient and easy to use but if they dare to try and tell me what I should be running then I will switch to Linux in a heartbeat and never worry about their attempts to grip their customers by the throat.

    Not to mention they go on to insult their customers intelligence by saying a new printer or video game won't work on previous Windows.

    Disgusting. They're lucky they have a monopoly on operating systems or they'd be out of business tomorrow.

    I hope they do go out of business soon for this atrocity. Nobody and I do mean NOBODY makes changes on MY computer than I paid for with MY money without MY permission. Not Microsoft, not the manufacturer of my computers hardware, software, and not even god himself.

    • Tina Sieber
      June 17, 2016 at 2:10 am

      Depending on whether you're on Windows 7 or 8.1, you could be switching to Linux by 2020 or 2023. That's when extended support for these operating systems will run out, meaning they will no longer received security updates.

      • Kyokkai
        June 17, 2016 at 2:37 am

        If they continue future Windows like this then it seems so.

  15. WDHC
    June 15, 2016 at 11:28 pm

    Thank you for your forum.

    For small businesses with substantial investments in professional software and large printers Windows 10 has been a disrupting disaster. Many expensive systems are out of warranty thus drivers are not being updated, plus, say, a flatbed printer is usually built to be used for decades and all the companies that made them have done legal tactics to capitalize on Microsoft's greed and force you to buy new printers, etc. rather than come out with W10 drivers that work.

    W10 has a fatal flaw for business, aside from privacy concerns: On large systems it corrupts User data, even if 1. File History is off, 2. the computer stays off line, and 3. the data is on a separate disk. It has something to do with W10's inability to truly shut down, possibly there are encryption issues?

    So I removed KB 3035583 and no longer update my W7pro computers. And I am shopping for Mac and Linux systems. I am never spending another penny on a Windows system.

    • Tina Sieber
      June 17, 2016 at 2:07 am

      Do you need the computers attached to the printers to be online?

      You could just keep them offline, maybe with access to local network storage, so files can be shared with other / updated computers in the network. That's how many people keep Windows XP-dependent hardware running safely.

      Also, if the computer isn't online, it can't automatically upgrade to Windows 10. :)

  16. King
    June 11, 2016 at 5:13 am

    Windows 10 update it's an orwellian nightmare. It's abusive and intrusive. Once you've updated, it will always be updating in the back ground, and it is impossible to shut off the automatic updates. It's also designed to log every time into a Windows Outlook account, and forces you to be always online, making a continuous and annoying backup of all your files and system. In order to shut it off you have to trick the system, it's not designed to shut it off. And visually Windows 10 OS it's terrible to the eyes. It not minimalist and clear. It's all the way round: it's plain and horrible. I truly believe that Windows suicide it itself with this new OS, and has forced many traditional Windows users, like me, to take the decision to emigrate to Apple OS.

  17. Loops
    June 2, 2016 at 12:35 am

    I have a question; what does Windows 10 update look like now? I know it's under my list of updates and I've set it to download updates manually, but the entire list shows "Update for Windows 7" and none of the descriptions say it will update to Windows 10. I'm afraid of updating something and it ending up being Windows 10; I do not want it on my computer yet. Any help, guys?

    • Tina Sieber
      June 2, 2016 at 7:35 am

      Windows 10 is a recommended update. You should and you can safely install all the critical updates to keep your system patched.

      The recommended update that will take you to Windows 10 is KB3035583.

      If you'd rather not deal with this yourself, I'd recommend running Never10 or GWX Control Panel. Microsoft might change its tactics in the coming weeks, before the free upgrade expires, and those tools might catch the changes quicker than an individual user.

  18. Gilbert
    May 31, 2016 at 8:08 pm

    Since the update message was appearing on my machine all the time, I thought it was safe to run the update to Win 10. Big mistake. After it finishes my PC didn't start again. The HD was completely corrupted. I went to Best Buy to see if they could something with no aval. They said they will send the HD to a recovery service. After 2 months they said the data was too corrupted and they couldn't fix it. It cost me more than $500 and they reinstalled Win 7 on a new HD.

    I have a Lenovo Y570 and for that machine the update is problematic at best. Microsoft should inform users what machines cannot be upgraded (at least without complications).

    Since I have a new HD a new installation of Win 7, I continuously get the Update to win 10 messages. I always close them, but now it shows my a screen that says update now of schedule an update. It doesn't give me an option to close the dialog, not even with the task manager.

    Can a sue Microsoft? Is there any class action against them?
    In the best case (for them) I will not buy any Windows PC in the future. I will move to Mac or Linix. I a really very upset with Microsoft.

    • Tina Sieber
      June 2, 2016 at 7:38 am

      I feel your frustration, Gilbert.

      Consumer protection agencies in Europe are getting suing Microsoft for its update practices. I haven't heard of any class actions in the US yet.

  19. Klaxon
    May 26, 2016 at 1:35 pm

    I believe that having paid the full price of my windows 7 i should have the choice and the right to retain it if i want to, and not be bullied into windows 10 which i find slow and cumbersome.

    • Tina Sieber
      May 26, 2016 at 1:58 pm

      Yes, that's what makes many Windows 7 users so furious. Microsoft still has to support it, they paid for it, and they don't want to change their running system. The constant prodding by Microsoft is so frustrating if you've made up your mind.

      • CB
        May 26, 2016 at 9:17 pm

        Make no mistake.. Microsoft is planning to turn W10 into a subscription with no option to own your license. This is the only reason why they're trying to force the "upgrade". It has nothing to do with security or that Microsoft is trying to make the upgrade process easier for you. By accepting the W10 EULA, you are agreeing to forgo your perpetual Windows 7 / 8 license that you own on that device, and enter into a W10 "Term" license. This allows MS to convert your existing OS to a "fixed term" license, and such terms (payments) can be revised at Microsoft's discretion.

        Right now the W10 offering is "free" but Microsoft is already using Windows 10 and SaaS in the same sentence just like they did with Office 365. Only this time you won't be able to choose to own or rent your W10 Operating System if you agree to the EULA upgrade prompt. We have never before seen Microsoft go to this extreme to aggressively push customers to upgrade Windows. The reason is, Microsoft needs to do this in steps to achieve maximum results of moving all of their existing OS install base to a monthly subscription revenue model. Step 1 is to have the customer agree to a new EULA by luring you into the W10 "free" upgrade. Since that wasn't going so well, force it by disguising the upgrade countdown as an Windows update and making it difficult to stop the W10 upgrade process. Step 2 is with the EULA accepted; the stage is set to change your W10 OS to SaaS subscription. I don't want to ever agree to an arrangement where I can't use my computer if I don't keep paying Microsoft.

        I get that its Microsoft's choice to do so but hate that they're being so shady about what's coming. Then forcing the upgrade to users who aren't tech savvy enough, or just unwilling to keep fighting it off. W10 is not good enough to stand on its own in the first place. The lack of privacy using W10 is another issue entirely. The tactics and heavy handed means Microsoft is displaying here are both appalling, and revealing of what we can expect if we're locked into a subscription.

  20. Lisa Kehrli
    May 24, 2016 at 7:24 pm

    Windows highjacked my computer with the Windows 10 update at a very inconvenient time without my accepting any terms, so I had to use my phone all morning to do emails and web searches.

    So after it was finally done, I declined the agreement and it reverted to Windows 7.

    Thanks for the info on how to stop it from happening again!

    • Tina Sieber
      May 26, 2016 at 1:25 pm

      Welcome Lisa, and I hope it won't bother you again.

  21. David Lisowski
    May 19, 2016 at 3:05 pm

    I got screwed this am and declined the EULA thinking it would just not install. After I did that it spent a long time uninstalling!. Then it booted and all my settings were lost. It wanted met to choose my language, etc. No internet. I used a recovery disk and got settings back. But now NO INTERNET at all. I still have no internet.

    Meanwhile I missed most of an important training class this AM as I struggle with this crap.

    They need a class action lawsuit.

    • Tina Sieber
      May 19, 2016 at 4:09 pm

      This is incredibly frustrating. Sorry you have to go through this, David!

    • Brian
      June 1, 2016 at 7:06 pm

      Probably a driver issue. It can be fixed.

  22. Brancaleone
    May 19, 2016 at 10:38 am

    I must agree with dave james.
    This was (at least for me) a gross violation of privacy and trust. X3 accept user agreements are already doubtful and possibly invalid in court but such actions by someone like microsoft is ... Bewildering.
    Democracy is a system of governance that can be of any colour. Capitalism is just another ideology, I can't believe how people stand first by it than by democracy. It doesnt surprise that the common man is unaware, but that goverments allow private companies to act so cannot be considered ignorance, it is by definition complicity. I really dont understand how the common folk belevies the average senator is there to represent their interest. The truth is we live in a democracy one day every four years. The rest is aristocracy. People need to stop seeing entrapreneurs as benefactors of society, especially if they produce abroad and do not provide local employement. And im not talking class conflict, at this point this is an issue of sustainable development, where investments bring positive outcomes to local communities and not just stock holders..
    If all the above weren't true then I could seriously expect microsoft to be legally prosecuted for fraudolent user agreement terms and violation of privacy on mass scale.

  23. JD
    May 13, 2016 at 12:35 pm

    Thanks to the webmasters for the wonderful tips for the Demon Windows 10 and thanks to all the wonderful people who posted their comments with so many other helpful hints.

  24. JD
    May 13, 2016 at 12:31 pm

    Once they get everyone settled into their demonic Windows 10, they'll create a Windows 10.1 or Windows 11 in order to fix Windows 10 while totally stopping all support for the Windows 8.1 version. It's all about money and corruption (and what the government wants).

  25. Dave James
    April 23, 2016 at 12:54 am

    Surely Microsoft have exceeded their legal rights by this unscrupulous, underhanded means of procuring users to upgrade when they don't want it. It's time they were taken to task over this scurrilous behaviour. This unacceptable face of capitalism... it just beggars belief.

  26. vsn
    April 15, 2016 at 3:08 pm

    Simply uninstall update KB3035583 and then hide it from the list of important updates.
    Goodbye Windows 10.

  27. Pat
    April 15, 2016 at 6:24 am

    I was not given the option to decline. In fact on April 3 it gave me notification it would install win 10 on April 6. There was no option to decline. None. When April 6 came, I looked at my laptop and it was at 19% installed. I had not clicked any prompts. It started the installation process with no permission from me. I think Microsoft is criminal to do this to someone's computer.

  28. Lucas
    April 8, 2016 at 2:27 am

    Just now i turned my back to my laptop and in a matter of seconds the system started upgrading, WITHOUT NOTICE! I wasn't able to decline..! I've never been so disappointed with Microsoft as I am now. Definitely they have crossed the line.

    And to make it worst: this is the SECOND TIME this shit happens. After forced upgrade, I noticed Excel got really slow, so I immediatly downgraded back to 8.1 and removed the setup file in Windows Update. So I'm quite hating this absurd.

  29. Daid
    April 4, 2016 at 9:55 am

    Thanks for this guide was a big help - didn't like Windows 10, the big blocks of Apps disappeared after a while for some reason and Cortana not much use on a PC with no microphone and irritating anyway like Siri on my phone. Couldn't find stuff on 10 and I really like 7 - I know where everything is and how to use it. Why can't Microsoft give us a choice of having a shell for 10 which makes it look and work like Windows 7 which is good for PC users

  30. Kevin
    March 12, 2016 at 1:19 am

    My upgrade went so poorly that the compute basically was unusable. I was able to revert back to Windows 7 but it keeps wanting to still automatically update to Windows 10. It shows up on my upgrade list but will not let me uninstall it. I need a workable computer and this Windows 10 is basically malware at this point for me.

  31. algasys
    February 27, 2016 at 10:43 pm

    Hello Everybody,

    On my configuration, the Aegis script don't have any effects. After restarting the computer I again find all the stuff about win 10.
    After that, I tried GWX Control panel. What I can tell you is..... bye bye win10. the only problem I had was to reinstall all updates.

  32. John
    February 13, 2016 at 12:43 am

    Got windows 10 on a new Lenovo and loved it, then upgraded by granddaughter's Lenovo 8.1 again loved it no problems, Then upgraded my 6 year old Lenovo 7. Big problems so after trying all the tricks took it to the Microsoft store. They checked it out and said even though MSFT says all PC are compatible they are not. You have to go to the individual PC companies website see if your PC is compatible. Mine was not so they had to do a clean install ( I backed up everything frist ) it only cost $49. They also made it so I get no more notifications. and it runs like new. Lesson learned, Check your PC companis website before attempting an upgrade !

  33. Estpin28
    February 6, 2016 at 1:36 pm

    I tried Windows 10 in a HP Pavilion dm 4 entertainment laptop, I bought it in 2013 with windows 7 x64 by default. Since I purchased it worked perfect until I installed Windows 10. Cortana never worked every time I tried to find something on the hatd drive or the web the only result was "searching..." also never downloaded a single update, all the time I had this notification about updates to download but every time got sticked in 0%. And I have bandwith high speed internet so that's nit to blame. but the most concerning issue I had is the heating, the ventilation fan worked like crazy and the bottom of the laptop got tremendously hot (my dog got an small burn in her nose when she tried to smell what it was doing such amount of noise). I asked for help and it turns out the problem are the fan controllers and there are no controllers yet available for this model. (According to windows help center at least) I just don't see the point of forcing users to upgrade their computers if the manufactures are not ready to provide the necessary support and if their objective is to force us to buy new laptops or pc then is pointless to force the update when they can just announce zero support starting in whenever date they like. Obviously I returned inmediatelly to windows 7 and since I'm not updating until they fix this issues at least maybe I'm going to end up moving to Linux which I been trying lately and it has me very happy so far.

  34. Brad
    February 6, 2016 at 4:19 am

    Windows 10 was written for the NSA. They can even check all your emails stored on your system. And that's the the tip of the iceberg!

  35. Dennis
    February 6, 2016 at 2:28 am

    I've got MS Windows 10 (both Pro and Home versions) on both of my primary computers (a desktop and a laptop), but I've loaded Ubuntu and Zorin Linux (dual boot) on an old Dell laptop and talk about booting fast! Man, that is what booting fast is all about! Win 10 can't even come close. Give Win 10 about 45 to 55 seconds to boot at the fastest and up to a minute or a minute and 10 seconds at the slowest on my Toshiba laptop with a six core AMD processor that I just purchase last year! The Dell has a dual core Intel Centrino CPU in it that's about 6 years old! I agree with Bob (here in the discussions) who said the "Nix-based" systems are just as capable plus they are more secure than Windows-based systems.

    One thing that has really gotten to me about this version of Windows (10) is I can't even stack windows side by side anymore! I've posted questions to the forums and they are never even addressed by Microsoft. They must have a lot of problems with this OS if they can fix such a small problem as this. Actually many folks have written in to the forums about this problem and are DISGUSTED with not getting any acknowledgement from MS and not getting it fixed. I've just about decided to go with my favorite flavors of Linux and be done with it. The only problem with that is there are some tasks that can only be accomplished with Windows based programs, such as I have a Sony camcorder and I have to download videos to my computer using Sony PlayMemories Home. Once I have downloaded the videos, the program allows me to clip videos and then recombine the clips. If I could do that on Linux, then I would throw Windows away! I've used Wine in the past, but didn't have much luck, so I've stayed with Windows for that reason alone.

    I also had the same question as Jeff C. I thought W10 was supposed to be the last version of Windows, so why is there an "End of Mainstream Support" and "End of Extended Support"??? What the heck is going on here???

    • Tina Sieber
      February 8, 2016 at 9:55 am

      Thank you for your comment, Dennis.

      Wow, Windows 10 takes an eternity to boot on your devices. It's up in seconds on my Lenovo Yoga Pro 2, which came with Windows 8.1 originally.

      See my response to Jeff regarding support. This is essentially meaningless for Home and Pro users, but for Enterprise users updates are still optional. And as with the progression from Windows 8 to Windows 8.1 Update 1, they will eventually release a new version of Windows 10 with a new support lifecycle.

      • TheWolf
        April 7, 2016 at 9:58 am

        I wonder if either of your are using a solid state drive to boot your OS. SSDs make a world of a difference when it comes to booting up the OS and most applications.

  36. A41202813GMAIL ..
    February 5, 2016 at 9:48 am

    The Lovers Of The **Latest And Greatest** Had A Field Day On XP Holdouts Since APRIL 8, 2014.

    Who Is Laughing Out Now ?

    KARMA Is A Really Cold Lady !

    XPOCALYPSE FOREVER !

  37. Daniel Aniq Herry Asmadi
    February 5, 2016 at 4:38 am

    i'm happy with windows 10, haters gonna hate .... see you on dx11 bitches

    • Migamix
      April 3, 2016 at 8:21 pm

      and you have how many applications that support it?

  38. bromberg
    February 5, 2016 at 4:08 am

    How do I delete the UPDATE FAILED messages that are logged into my WINDOWS UPDATE HISTORY?

  39. cliff
    February 5, 2016 at 3:23 am

    Not over my dead body.I'm getting a surface pro 4 with win 10.But my Samsung series 7 ultrabook with win 8.1 is not (I repeat not going to update to win 10).I happen to like win 8.1 interface.I paid for it & I have the right to chose what I want on my computer! Suck it #Microsoft.

  40. omegatalon
    February 5, 2016 at 12:31 am

    Until there's a class action lawsuit against Microsoft, they will continue attempting to force all WIN 7 and WIN 8/8.1 users to the upgrade as it's why I've set my computer to never check for upgrades so to prevent WIN 10 from being downloaded.

  41. l_mckeon
    February 4, 2016 at 11:16 pm

    I'm using expensive pre-paid wireless internet, so their surreptitious 3GB download could cost me up to $20. I'm at a loss why someone hasn't sued Microsoft over these practices.

  42. Jeff C
    February 4, 2016 at 11:04 pm

    So on a related subject;
    Could someone explain to me why W10 which is supposed to be the last version of Windows ever has an end of support?
    And only two years and nine months after W8.1 support ends.
    What will it be replaced with?

    MS is hiring a lot of Linux developers, is the replacement going to be an MS branded Linux?

    Why would I 'upgrade' to yet another short-timer OS?
    Especially one that brings as many problems with it as W10 does.

    • Tina Sieber
      February 8, 2016 at 9:46 am

      That's a good question, Jeff. My guess is that with Windows 10, the support lifecycle is meaningless for home and professional users, since they will always be force-upgraded to the next version or "service pack" and all updates are mandatory.

      The support lifecycle is, however, still relevant for Enterprise users because for them upgrades remain optional. In other words, what the Windows 10 support lifecycle means is that Enterprise users will receive support (security updates and patches) for the RTM version (released in July 2015) until 2025.

      Eventually, Microsoft will make a new version of Windows 10 the "gold standard", which Enterprise users have to switch over in order to receive continued support.

  43. Need2Know
    February 4, 2016 at 4:53 pm

    when you state that before Windows 10 installs it will "scan for apps that have to be removed prior to upgrading".

    You should be provided what apps are to be removed, then asked if you want to proceed with the Windows 10 installation.

    • Tina Sieber
      February 8, 2016 at 9:39 am

      Well yes, after the scan the app will come back with a list of apps that have to be removed and you can continue or cancel at that point.

  44. nick
    February 4, 2016 at 4:50 pm

    I think its amazing that there re so many options for this upgrade. I can't imagine for the live of me why you want to not upgrade and subject yourself to viruses and slow boot times. Win10 is so much better all around in so many ways.

    • Howard Blair
      February 4, 2016 at 7:12 pm

      Windows 8.x and 10 are flat and ugly. The integration of the Settings page is woefully incomplete - dozens of items are still Control Panel applets - and totally unnecessary.
      The Windows Store is just a cash grab - even the new Solitaire game is shareware - and Microsoft is adding advertising wherever it can.
      The Modern UI ("Metro") is unnecessary, especially since the ARM Surface tablets have been discontinued, and Windows 10 Mobile is starting its slow death rattle; the Lumia phones have been losing market share for years, so Windows on ARM seems dead in the water (the best reason to use the Modern UI framework, which runs on ARM).
      Windows 10's telemetry (which was backported to Windows 7 and 8.x).
      Frameworks like .NET and Modern UI are slower than "native" code, since, like Java, they're semi-interpreted "P-code," rather than native processor code. Meh.

    • Doktor Thomas
      February 5, 2016 at 1:40 am

      Are you voting for Hillary also?
      Research spying capabilities and potentials of win10.
      The critical question not about updating, but given win10 why would any sane person do any business with MSFT?

    • Bob
      February 5, 2016 at 9:23 am

      Do you really believe that? I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I will sell you cheap - only 2 million bitcoins! Every version of Windows that Microsoft has put out has had nothing but security fix after security fix. Each one was advertised to be more secure and better than the previous version. For the vast majority of people, each version has not offered anything new that they weren't able to do on the previous version. They can still send e-mail, use Facebook and other social media, play games and view Youtube videos, etc. on XP and over time, the security is no worse than what becomes of Windows 10 (or any following versions or updates).
      BTW, being able to "boot faster" (just a few seconds is meaningless), does not speak well of the OS itself. When being able to "boot faster" is a big selling point, it says the OS is a piece of crapola. You get into the main frame world and those systems can run for weeks, months, (24/7) without having to reboot. 'Nix-based systems are just as capable plus they are more secure than Windows-based systems. I could go on, but time and space does not permit.

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