Comments on: Fedora 17 “Beefy Miracle” – Possibly The Best Release Yet [Linux]

By: Danny Stieben

Danny Stieben — Tue, 14 Aug 2012 07:00:21 +0000

Thanks for your feedback! :)

By: V. Narayanan

V. Narayanan — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:54:19 +0000

Hi
A lovely review.

For everybody’s information, I am a Fedora Fanatic since the release of Fedora 15. I enjoy using Gnome Environment. I have recommended fedora to all those whom I think are real users of PCs & Laptops.

Certain improvements is needed in Fedora:
a) Revisor – it is not working well as it worked in Fedora 15 or 16
b) Too many kernel upgrades spoiling applications. However by using yum remove and then yum install, you can have the apps working for you after kernel upgrade
c) Fedora 17 becomes slow after installing many applications, this was not there when I used Fedora 15 or 16.

The plus points untouched by this review are:
a) Security wise Fedora 17 is miraculous.
b) Etoken work well in Fedora 17 than in any other Linux Distributions (I tested some 30)
c) Security Lab Features are far superior and better to Back Track Linux Version 5 R1. However R2 scores better than Fedora
d) Gaming & Networking has made easy and simpler in Fedora 17.
e) Increased hardware connectivity & compatibility – superb printer support

Fedora 17 is the Linux for all who wants better computing experience
Yours
VN

By: Danny Stieben

Danny Stieben — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 01:35:59 +0000

F17 and BT5 are completely separate projects with separate goals. BT5 is security-oriented and comes with a lot of security tools, while F17 is an all-around distribution (think Ubuntu or Debian). There is a spin of Fedora, however, which specialized in security tools.

By: Aryan

Aryan — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 11:31:43 +0000

Can someone tell me the difference between Fedora 17 and BackTrack 5….? I heard some people say BT5 is much better. But in what sense when compared to F17?

By: Stani

Stani — Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:07:59 +0000

Fedora’s update names are voted on, Beefy Miracle is the funnest one in a while. Would like to see Compiz-Fusion written for 17. Seems really solid, I usually only do even-numbered updates, but I like 17 so far.

By: Danny Stieben

Danny Stieben — Tue, 03 Jul 2012 07:33:22 +0000

I understand what you’re saying, and I do think Fedora should at least include it as an option. But for whatever reason there’s a problem (packaging I believe, but don’t quote me on that) which is preventing that from happening.

On the “what’s the default” front, it’ll always be Gnome because Red Hat puts a lot of development effort into it. They usually give the Fedora community specific instructions on how to display Gnome. Just like how the icon set is largely unmodified, Red Hat even said for the Fedora 15 release that they have to stay (or primarily use) the default Gnome 3 striped wallpaper.

By: Lazza

Lazza — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 11:55:38 +0000

“since it’s Canonical’s brainchild, Fedora isn’t going to use it as its default”
If that was the reason, it would be a lot child-ish. Network Manager was made by Red Hat and Ubuntu adopted it because it was good, not adopting a piece of software because it’s made by another company is nonsense in the FLOSS world.
By this I don’t mean Fedora should use Unity by default, but the reason you gave sounds very strange to me. Every DE is good in some aspect, one has just to choose the one he prefers. :)

By: Danny Stieben

Danny Stieben — Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:19:29 +0000

Maybe you would have a little better luck trying a different desktop environment, like Xfce or LXDE (if KDE isn’t your cup of tea). All of them are available on both Ubuntu and Fedora, so it’s a question of which base system you prefer more.

By: Carl Farrington

Carl Farrington — Sun, 24 Jun 2012 00:52:42 +0000

OK so I tried Fedora 17 (the Live CD anyway), and Gnome 3 is still a no go for me :-(
I can’t even edit the ethernet connection settings unless there is a live network connection. I go to the network menu on the top toolbar, and the “options” are greyed out, because there is no physical link. I can’t use the middle button of my Thinkpad’s trackpoint as a vertical scroll enabler. Within 5 minutes of booting I can see this massive limitation, so what’s the point in trying to ignore that and go further? It would be stupid to not expect more limitations. It doesn’t seem to have progressed much since when I last tried it – the first Fedora release to have Gnome 3.. whatever version it was called, I can’t remember.

By: Carl Farrington

Carl Farrington — Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:35:16 +0000

I’m getting so sick of Ubuntu now (after ~5 years of using it), that I think I might give Fedora & Gnome 3 another shot.

I am sick of losing windows/applications. Window management in Ubuntu is simply rubbish now.
I have been using Precise since alpha.
Application windows, and sometimes child windows, will just disappear – they are here somewhere, but I can’t find them. It’s like they’re minimised and both the alt-tab switcher and everything else I try can’t find them. I check the other workspaces. Sometimes they reappear.
About 1 in 8 times, the laptop (Thinkpad X301) simply gives a mouse cursor on a black screen after waking from suspend. This has been going on for at least six to eight months. There’s a bug filed, to which I have added myself, but it seems not to be of interest to anybody.

By: Danny Stieben

Danny Stieben — Sat, 23 Jun 2012 04:19:53 +0000

What kind of bugs? You can always follow the instructions ABRT provides to file the bug and see if the devs can submit a fix.

By: Yogesh Verma

Yogesh Verma — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:33:33 +0000

after updating fedora
and installing sound driver
its showing bugs

By: Jackson Chung

Jackson Chung — Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:46:16 +0000

Awesome comment, Nick! I awarded you 150 extra points for it.

By: Chris Hoffman

Chris Hoffman — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 00:01:52 +0000

Heh, that was a joke, given that it sounds so silly.

By: Danny Stieben

Danny Stieben — Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:38:33 +0000

Nope, no spoofing going on.

Read this to understand the progression of the release names and how they’re determined: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/History_of_Fedora_release_names