It’s The End Of Days For Windows XP – Microsoft Will Send Pop-up Reminders

It’s the end of the line for Windows XP. Microsoft is planning to use pop-up warnings to remind users to upgrade and it could start as soon as next week. Windows XP will end its 12-year successful run on April 8th and Microsoft wants the considerable number of users to shift over to more modern versions of its operating system. The pop-up notifications will be enabled from March 8th following the monthly patch cycle of Windows Update.

Pop-ups will continue to be displayed on the 8th of every month unless users tick the “don’t show this message again” option. Running an unsupported operating system is a security risk for organizations and individuals still on it. A free transfer tool called PCmover Express is designed to copy files, music, videos, emails, user profiles, and settings from an old PC to a new one running Windows 7, Windows 8, or Windows 8.1. Microsoft has partnered with Laplink to create the tool. It will be available for download from this month onwards at WindowsXP.com.

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Microsoft has also launched a second website for the less tech savvy. The End of Service site simply lets confused users know if they are (or not) running Windows XP. It also encourages them to take a tour of the latest OS from Microsoft.

These are simple support acts from Microsoft as one of its most popular efforts rides into the sunset. It will represent a significant step-up for users still on the old Windows XP platform to embrace the radical re-design of Windows 8.1. Are you one of them?

Source: The Verge

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dragonmouth

Mr. Bill just regained his position as the World’s Richest Man. Now he wants Windows users to make sure he keeps his position.

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Saikat B

Wouldn’t you? :)

And in all fairness, (totally diverting from the topic), he is using all wealth for some good causes.

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dragonmouth

“he is using all wealth for some good causes.”

So did Al Capone and John Gotti. (American gangsters)

Maybe he should have spent some of that ill gotten booty on making Windows a better O/S?

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Anonymous

he’s helping starving kids in Africa and you have the nerve to complain not that he should spend some more of it doing so, but rather “to make windows a better OS”

well get over it. mac OS sucks comparing it to windows and I am handing your ass over to you right now from behind the keyboard of a mac.

Windows is not perfect, let’s face it, but it beats the hell out of mac (if you’re a decent user).

Don’t like it? Use linux and don’t be a smartass when your achievements are living on a basement for free

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Justin P

Windows XP was supported for a shockingly long time. Those who bought the OS more than got their money’s worth. There’s not a Linux distro on the planet still supporting a release from 2001, and Apple basically just dropped support for Snow Leopard not even half a decade after release.

Those who keep using XP at this point won’t get security updates, and that’s not selfish on Microsoft’s part. They’ve been more than generous.

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Saikat B

Windows may be imperfect, but it is the OS most of us grew up with. Linux came later, and Mac OS X was prohibitive. Whatever its faults, Windows was never a walled garden. And speaking of my country, I can say that the tech revolution wouldn’t have happened without Windows. It’s probably true of most Asian countries as well.

I just hope banks and other financial institutions have upgraded because even a year back, I could see the frontends on Windows XP.

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dragonmouth

I have no illusions, XP will be killed but M$ but that does not mean I have to like the decision and I am a Linux user.

Justin,
No distro is supporting a release from 2001 because their developers have incrementally upgraded them over the years, unlike Microsoft which released stand-alone, barely compatible versions every few years. However, any current distro is backwards compatible with 2001-era hardware. (I do it all the time) The same cannot be said of Win 7 & 8.x.

Saikat,
“And speaking of my country, I can say that the tech revolution wouldn’t have happened without Windows”
I think you are giving Gates and Microsoft too much credit. The tech revolution would have happened no matter what. Maybe not in the exact same time frame but it would have happened. Had Digital Research and Gary Kildall used the same predatory and monopolistic tactics as M$, DRI would be the 800 pound gorilla and you would be saying that “the tech revolution wouldn’t have happened without CP/M.” No, I’m not suggesting we would be using CP/M just as we’re not using DOS. Bill Gates’ genius lies in the business decisions he made, not in his coding. Having M$ secure exclusive and restrictive sales contracts with hardware manufacturers to use only DOS and Windows was a stroke of brilliance and led to the ubiquity of Windows.

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dragonmouth

@Anonymous:
I guess you’re none too proud of your snarky comments since you posted them anonymously.

“he’s helping starving kids in Africa”
He is more interested in starving kids in Africa than he is in not polluting the world those kids will have to live in. Mr. Bill and M$ are the single biggest cause of electronic junk in the landfills by obsoleting millions of computers every couple of years with new, incompatible versions of Windows.

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Notmoron

>No distro is supporting a release from 2001 because their developers have incrementally upgraded them over the years, unlike Microsoft which released stand-alone, barely compatible versions every few years.
So in other words, MS sucks because they work upon the same consumer product for years and send automatic updates to those that own the operating system, so long as it’s supported?

>However, any current distro is backwards compatible with 2001-era hardware. (I do it all the time) The same cannot be said of Win 7 & 8.x.
Well, yeah, more powerful operating systems need more powerful hardware.

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Widi

@Saikat_B Linux may be newer, but GNU is most certainly not. And if we didn’t have GNU/Linux, we’d be forced to submit to this corporate treachery. All we could do is whine, while Microsoft powerhogs eat up money.

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penguin

fun fact #1: bill gates isn’t even in charge of microsoft anymore. hasn’t been since 2008. does he still have a role in the company? yes. is he in any sort of position to make these kinds of decisions? nope.

fun fact #2: linux is better

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Ben S

The end of XP is making me nervous. I know many people who just don’t understand what the termination of security updates means for them. Both my elementary/middle and high school are small and are still on XP. I’m assuming they’ll adopt an “it still works, so why spend money on an upgrade?” stance.

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dragonmouth

“I know many people who just don’t understand what the termination of security updates means for them.”

Probably very little since after market software companies have been providing most, if not all, anti-malware software. All Microsoft ever provided is security holes and exploits. I think the “termination of security updates” from Microsoft will have about the same impact as Y2K had – almost none.

“Both my elementary/middle and high school are small and are still on XP.”

Would a switch to Linux be feasible?

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Ben S

Perhaps you’re right about the malware problem – and that would be a relief.

I think a switch to Linux would be feasible. It would take some persuading, but there’s not any software either school uses that is exclusively for Windows.

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dragonmouth

“I think a switch to Linux would be feasible. It would take some persuading”

The two most convincing arguments would be that Linux (O/S and apps) would be free to obtain, and that the useful life of the current hardware would be prolonged, postponing the purchase of new hardware for a few years and thus saving money now. In all fairness however, money may have to be expended for hiring Linux-literate support staff, unless the current staff is already Linux-savvy.

BTW – a search of Distrowatch.com shows at least 10 Linux distros designed for education. (Ex: Edubuntu, SkoleLinux, UberStudent) I have not used any of them so I can’t recommend any particular one.

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Brad

People, it’s 12 years old. UPGRADE FOR GOD’s SAKE OR SWITCH!

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Saikat B

Couldn’t have put it better myself :)

12 years is an era in the digital realms.

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linuxiac38

Thank God that M$ hasn’t a clue, and that all the hardware I have used, owned, installed in schools, businesses, homes, was previously sold because M$ was on it, but, it was so full of crapware and malware, that the people tired of becomming computer technicians, and switched to Linux!

Get your Linux Mint .com with it’s 40,500 FREE programs and applications!
All the background processes run upto 200 Times FASTER on the SAME HARDWARE!!! What runs the Internet, Microsoft Corporation, Google, FaceBook??? LINUX!!!

What gives the NSA, FBI, CIA, IRS problems hacking you? LINUX!

http://linuxmint.com or attend any Install Fest!
Central Florida has http://leap-cf.org every month!!!

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dragonmouth

“People, it’s 12 years old.”

To use the hackneyed car analogy:
I am not going to replace a car just because it is 12 or more years old, if it is still running strong. I know there are millions of people who change cars every year or two. It is great for the industry but is it absolutely necessary? Besides, if we replaced everything because it was old there would be no antiques and old people.

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AmazonBeachBunny

I have always enjoyed installing larger boat anchors on my automobiles to drag behind me. It is fun paying for alpha and beta testing of Microsoft’s latest underdeveloped and never finished incompatible barely adequate incapable operating systems on to today super powered computers. Planned obsolescence is Microsoft most powerful marketing tool, no sense fixing something that never quite worked right, just release it as your newest broken down operating system to confuse you previous customers. Can you say more profit for less effort.

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Howard B

“…embrace the radical re-design of Windows 8.1.” With a start menu replacement like StartIsBack, and a Windows 7 theme (with UXTheme Patcher), Windows 8.1 is remarkably tolerable.

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Saikat B

With the pending update pack for Windows 8.1, some good things for “touch-less” screens are promised.

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dragonmouth

“some good things for “touch-less” screens are promised.”

I’m from Microsoft, I’m here to help you. :-)

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y0himba

I just want that in a full size wallpaper. 2048×1152 please.

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pyotr

Where do I go to get the Microsoft hardware upgrade voucher?
Vista was okay (It was on the laptop). WIndows 8 is AOL Games.
Win7 works, but the interface is interfering with my use of the computer. I’m back in school, last quarter my question was “am I suppose to be learning the CAD software, or Word2010?” Same with Win7 – how much time am I going to hve to spend in non-productive “work” trying to figure out where Microsoft decided things were going to be this time. And I don’t mean “Okay, I’ll spend an hour getting this scoped out, and we’re good to go.” I mean a “simple” open this directory and … now where is the other sub-directory?
And a taskbar which is is non intuative. That is, “which icon is a program, and which is an instance of the program, and why can I not ‘double stack’ them {ala XP} so that my most frequent programs are readily available?”
To get somethign near the functionality of XP, I’m populating the desktop with shiortcuts. I don’t think that is optimal.
And that is before I get to such things as color schemes.
But the clock and calendar gadgets are useful.

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A41202813GMAIL

( From Another Thread )

Damn.

How Am I Going To Avoid This Annoying ‘Commercials’ ?

I Have Not Installed Any Newer M$ ‘Updates’ Since The SUMMER Of 2009, Ever.

Damn.

XP, FOREVER !

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Howard B

VIRUSES, FOREVER!

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A G B

Shout Whatever Gives You Money.

Mine Is:

XP, FOREVER !

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duty14

I don’t switch to newer Windows versions because they take up more memory. I have an 5 year computer and if I install a newer version of Windows it will take up memory and games have less memory power to work with…
If it weren’t for games or old computer…. then of course…. logical thing is to switch to a newer, supported and improved OS system.

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Howard B

The spring update for Windows 8.1 is supposed to “trim” the OS to run nicely on 1GB of RAM. Windows 7 runs on 1GB of RAM, but runs much smoother with 2GB or more. If you continue using XP after April, your computer *will* bog down more and more, as viruses and trojans sneak into your system, despite having an antivirus – you *do* have antivirus installed, right? It’s free – AVG, Avast and others have free versions – and there’s no excuse for not having it; these days, trojans, viruses, and worms sneak in without having to visit *any* website. Windows Defender and Security Essentials are to protect those who don’t know how to install antivirus – they’ve failed quite a few test suites, and they’re no substitute for the “real thing.”
By not having DX10/DX11, you’re also missing out on lots of newer games.

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Duty14

Thx for your recommendations. I am using Avast free antivirus at the moment. I runned an Win7 on my computer, and it runs normally. The problem is when run games that need resources. If windows occupies resources than the rest of resources are insufficient for some games I play. ( example: Win Xp occupies 20% of RAM while Win 7 occupies 40% of my RAM – so less RAM free for running games that need resources).
So quite simply even at Xp i am struggling with some games. And tried to improve performance removing services and programs not needed so I can run the games decent.
So for now I don’t have the resources to invest and buy a new computer… As a result im sticking with the Xp and take my chances. Hackers don’t have nothing important to steal from my computer. I don’t use nothing important on my computer… If it goes bad I will reinstall windows and in 30 minutes – 1 hour I will start fresh again.
So for now that’s my choice.

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doug

i don’t care if they stop supporting it but they don’t have a right you constantly harass users that they need to upgrade. some people don’t have the money or the hardware for that.

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ThoughtPong

Thank you. I fir one cannot afford it. For everyone saying “just upgrade it!” I would be happy to provide my paypal info so you can help me pay for the hardware and software I will need.

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Saikat B

@doug: Just check the box which will stop the reminders from appearing again.

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Widi

Of course they don’t have the right to harass users. They will likely get a slew of lawsuits.

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David

If you complain about not having money – get Linux. If you complain about newer versions being slow you’re probably pretty stupid. Run “msconfig” and disable everything that you wont use in windows 8 and I promise you that you’ll have the fastest OS that exists, faster than any other windows OS and with a very low RAM consumption. If you have a problem anyways I got no idea what a piece of shit your computer is or what games you play. Get out of the basement and get a work and maybe one day you can buy a real computer, not a wooden one and play next gen games. Also they’re helping you with giving you pop up messages since hackers just need your IP and hope that you have a bad router and then they have an open door to your computer.

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Duty14

It’s not wooden and it’s not shit computer… It’s just passed its time. 4-5 years ago it was a top computer when I bought it. No need to enter into detail but the games I am a fan of need resources. I know I should buy a new computer but at the moment I don’t have the financial disposal ( there are other financial responsibilities every day at the moment witch are more than enough ). I am working for 5 years now from finishing college. So stop accusing nonsense. I use my computer for divertisment purposes only. No import information on it. So hackers don’t have to waste time on my computer cause it’s nothing there. If really something bad happens I will reinstall the Windows and problem solved in half an hour- one hour.
At the moment that’s all I have and I will take my chances. Also at the moment Linux is limited with support for games and programs, so it’s no use installing it.

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SSK

Guys, Guys….. for goodness’ sake, PLEASE DO NOT upgrade. XP (possibly win 7 also, I wouldn’t say) was the last best venture of MS. Then Steve Ballmer went crazy.

Switch to LINUX. At least they don’t nag you to upgrade 24×7.

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Eric

I just began the transition process from XP to 8.1 yesterday (March 4 2014). However, I didn’t eradicate XP. Instead, I bought a new hard drive, installed the drive in my PC alongside my drive running XP, and installed 8.1 on it. It works fine on my 2005 DELL XPS 400. Now I can ease into 8.1 at my own leisure, slowly tinkering and becoming familiar in my free time, while still being able to boot to XP when I really need to get something done. Eventually, when I become confident with how to work in 8.1, I will install more programs and do most tasks with the new OS, reserving XP only for rare occasions when I need it for a program that won’t run in 8.1 or something. I recommend this process for everyone as it makes the transition entirely painless and fun – it gives you a sense of security to still have XP at your side while you learn 8.1.

Down the road 5-10 years from now, when it’s time to upgrade again, I will buy a new machine and install my drive running 8.1 alongside the new drive with the new OS that came with the machine. That way, like I am doing now, I will once again have an easy transition, being able to use 8.1 while learning the new OS at my leisure.

I highly recommend this process.

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MJ

As do I. I also recommend having any old computers being shut off from the local network., using only USB drives or similar to transfer files. You could also use an old PC as an IP Mask router if you wanted, but that’s for the networking gurus in us all (I stand guilty as charged).

But to do this process for the reasons you stated (all of them!) is the one approach that makes sense. Now if only they had made 8.1 a formality from the very beginning, the market share of 7 vs 8 wouldn’t be so skewed. But 7 got the plaudits, whereas XP had all the scared or even cautious consumers until they knew more about Windows 8 – which lets be honest, is a flop.

Most XP users will still be too afraid to move to Windows 8 because of the perceived hardware requirements compared to Windows 7, which apparently is more!! Confused? I just know that Windows missed a legit opportunity to get more people of XP by not doing the job properly the first time (they rushed it) and then finding out that the customers don’t like what they left out.

I trust they won’t make the same mistake with Win9. But they had better sort out the obvious problem – hardware and software backwards compatibility. I don’t care if its inconvenient, or if it makes the DVD Install disc a monster… Make it happen, and they will buy your NEW FLAGSHIP OS in DROVES., instead of waiting for others to try it and letting public opinion drive the market. If the product is good enough, that bad PR situation from your own customers won’t exist.

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rich

I have five household computers – two Win7 and three XP. I have the installation discs for Win8 in my desk drawer. When I copied files (with the built-in program) from my XP computers, there were many Win7 wouldn’t run – incompatible for various reasons. I just run a retiree’s setup, nothing fancy – Win7 is simply a way to avoid risky business with my “real” computers, the XP units. And if Win8 is ever installed it will be by my heirs so my estate can sell the damn thing.

At least Windows will arrange to turn off their nag screen. And I know there are security holes in XP that are increasingly hard to patch. And I know there are new types of programs and new types of hardware that eventally need a new OS to support them. But I’ve been playing this game since Windows was a GUI for DOS 6.22.

Maybe the oldest XP computer can be switched to Linux. It doesn’t have and can’t be given the hrsepowerWin 7/8 need. And it could be fun…

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lonn martin

old computer ? can’t swing new one right now ? go grab PclinuxOS ! Dual Booting so i’m saving favorite non web programs. Their own Free magazine to walk you through install and much more. Helpful user group forums. Free product. no strings. running and completed upgrades in 30 minutes. Software Repository of thousands of programs also free. i’m simply a happy user.

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PCLinuxOSWoman

Jimmy Fallon does a bit where he writes his thank you notes on Fridays on the Tonight Show. As it is Friday when I keyboard this — Thank you, Microsoft for discontinuing support for Windows XP. I have learned Linux, so I will never be Windows dependent again. And I’ll also be a little richer with any money I will never need to spend on upgrades.

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ztron

On a windows PC you can also try out a few Linux versions on one stick using a Bootux Bootable USB device without having to remove Windows or add Linux to your hard drive.

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Saikat B

Yes. The times are coming when one needs to be familiar with two or more operating systems. The strategy I see for myself is one computer with Windows/Mac, one with Linux, and one Chromebook. Feeling like some Linux love myself :)

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MJ

Please. I’m a Linux fan too… But the last thing I’m thinking is advisable is the Linux fanboys coming out and suggesting ‘X’ distro.

Windows users know what Linux is. Those that hate it probably do so because it’s unfamiliar. They’re probably the same group that don’t know what MS-DOS is or how to use it – much less know what its for! All the while oblivious to the fact that its running virtually every single interface command that you’re throwing at your PC.

Most of them recoil in horror at the sight of the black window. They’ll balk at the sight of regedit too. Personally, as long as they can use their apps on a new system, they’d probably do it for the price point of free.

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Tony Brayton

It’s amazing how a 13 year old OS still holds its own. Back then a 13 year old OS displayed 16 colors (256 at low resolution with mode 13h) and ran on 16-bit architecture. The advent of 64-bit was not as big of a leap as 32 from 16-bit so XP just keeps rolling. I beta tested XP and will always have a soft spot for it. Really quite disturbing the direction that 8 went in.

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Saikat B

One of the big reasons for XP lasting as long as it did, was the failure of Windows Vista. The bridge was literally destroyed and it also affected perceptions. Imagine, if Vista had found acceptance, would Windows XP had its long run? I doubt it.

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dragonmouth

If, if, if. A small word with huge implications and impact.

If M$ was half the company that it would have us believe it is, Windows would have been written properly from the word GO. Linux was, so it is/was possible.

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MJ

I’ve still got a DOS 3.11/16 bit 98SE install that holds it own too!!
Possibly a little too much.

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Weddy

this is violence from microsoft i won’t upgrade anyway to windows 7-8 I don’t like both of them

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Nicolas

windows 7=it’s a fraud because it has the same kernel of the shit Windows Vista but they made it lighter with a new restyling but it’s a Windows Vista, so the same crap slow and less intuitive than windows xp!!
windows 8=worst than windows 7 less intuitive than Vista.
Thanks to microsoft that finally stopped to bombarding us with updates for windows xp they were only heavy and useless(I always blocked them)

windows xp 64 bit kill windows 7-8 for speed and usability. Take a copy of windows xp 64 bit edition and run it not in administrator mode when you go on internet and you will be safe when you will go on internet, install a good free antivirus and firewall and forget windows 7 and 8.

I installed windows xp 64 bit on my machine and my pc fly, I trashed the slow windows 7 that came with the laptop(printer scanner companies are still supporting windows xp drivers).

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qwertinsky

Why is everyone making such a big deal about this? Microsoft quit supporting Windows 2000 ten years ago and I was just talking to someone last-night that is still using it. XP is not just going to stop working come April 8th. Use third party security and AV software just like you do now and nothing will change.

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MJ

AAAAh. Now THERE’S an astute comment! Again, the fear tactics won’t work for the smart ones. I still have Win2k pro on CD, but XPSP3 is better in every way. It had to be – it was (mostly, if not partially) based on the NT kernel – which was based on the Xenix (86) which was based on UNIX.

Yes, that’s right. Windows runs off a kernel that originated from Unix – whereas MS-DOS was brought out from IBM. This is one of the good things that Microsoft did. Completely opened up the platform for i386 technology to be run on multiple types of hardware. This was taking a vertical market (one supplier for all hardware/software) to a horizontal market (many suppliers/manufacturers with each having responsibility for the products and their compatibility.

For that, I give kudos to MS. But I’m afraid the list of bad things are too numerous for this forum. Including the fear tactics. Good on your friend ; )

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Caroline W

My parents have XP, they never use the computer except for filing Dad’s yearly Tax Returns. Now this is a huge security issue for them because of sensitive data. As they never use it we have decided to try and change the OS to Linux. For them, there is no point in forking out for a Windows upgrade. If Microsoft were giving upgrades for free, which I personally think they should do, then Win 7 would be the option. But as things stand, I will completely change to Linux and hopefully the computers specs will be enough. Any info you all could give me or advice that I’m doing the right thing, feel free to reply.

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Ollie

Caroline ur not doing the right thing, Upgrading to linux cost double the amount of just getting a linux. Also they probably wont cause they will get sued and forced to clcose the windows industry.
I would recommend a windows 8, its up to date and windows wont remove it for thousands of years.

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Caroline W

Thanks Saikat for the links. I’m going to install Speccy, which I believe will help, on their PC first so I can make sure it has at least the minimal requirements. I’ve installed Distros on computers, but my own, so I need to make sure I do it right on my Parents’ and it will be compatible with their machine.

Ollie, what on earth are you going on about – Linux is a free Operating System and it’s only one of its Distros I’ll be checking to replace on my Parents’s PC. And Windows 8 isn’t even up to date because we are on Win 8.1 already plus Windows 9, I heard, began to be worked on even when Win 7 was being launched. So I have no idea where you are getting all this from, along with Windows 8 to being around for 1000′s of years – I cannot even comment further because this ‘information’ I’m hearing is utterly ridiculous.

Saikat, I’ll check out the links to read and as it’s not my machine, I will hesitate to go full in completely removing Windows without testing it first, maybe run alongside it first before wiping Windows out maybe. And as a last resort, they will either have to use my computer to do their Taxes or they buy a budget Laptop. One way or another though, I’ll sort it for them. Thanks again very much for the help you gave :)

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Saikat B

Always welcome Caroline.

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dragonmouth

@Caroline W:
I, too, use XP only for the annual Tax Ritual. The rest of the time I use Linux. So far I have not been able to find a Linux replacement for TurboTax or TaxAct. However, both are accessible from Linux if you want to e-file.

Couple of days ago I downloaded a program called the Open Tax Solver. It claims to be a Linux replacement for TurboTax/TaxAct. Since I have not had a chance to try it yet I would be hesitant to recommend it.

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Ollie

Great. Ive just fixed this computer and now comes to this

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Abdo R.

This really aches me because in all honesty I think Windows XP beats 7 & 8 combined; XP had the best compatibility for old software & wasn’t hungry for memory & hard disk space like newer versions, the fact that it didn’t jump from 128MB to 1GB as required RAM like 7 & 8 did definitely made it easier for users to switch to.

Another thing is that its UI aspects are more comfortable to use in comparison to their counterparts from 7 & 8 (e.g. the Search function & the Start Menu), & it was a jerk move from M$ to force its “Modern” UIs on users without even an introductory guide or anything… When you fresh-install XP you got a “Discover Windows XP” dialog on your first boot-up which was really useful, you also had the option to use a Windows 95/98-styled Start Menu, again another reason why users were satisfied with switching to XP.

Unlike many users here I CANNOT use to Linux, not just because I have many unknown Windows programs that are very unlikely to run under WINE, but also the fact that I tried Ubuntu Linux before & found it very unstable. A couple years back I installed Ubuntu on a PC that had XP, it lagged right from the first boot-up, it was a real pain trying to install applications in it because I had to “build” certain programs (which I mostly failed at) & had to deal with “dependencies” that the Linux Terminal failed to fetch for me… One time the PC completely hanged & I had to press the restart button on my PC case, only to find that the 2 “taskbars” disappeared on the next boot-up without any means to reach programs or anything.

So there you have it, why I can’t upgrade to Windows 7/8 or use Linux, & therefore must stick with XP. If M$ were smart enough to not make bloated resource-hungry OSs with good software compatibility & UIs then I would have switched to them, but for now I’m just gonna take the risk & keep using XP.

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dragonmouth

“A couple years back I installed Ubuntu on a PC”
Sorry, Abdo, but the “couple of years” you mention must have been at least 10, if not more. Linux users haven’t had to deal with “dependency hell” for at least the 8 years. All of today’s popular distros resolve dependencies automatically behind the scenes. Nobody has “build” programs or use Terminal for anything unless that want to. Ubuntu, Mint, Zorin, Mepis, Fedora, for example, are very stable.

“I CANNOT use to Linux, not just because I have many unknown Windows programs that are very unlikely to run under WINE”
Unless you are running high end, industry-specific software, there is an equivalent native Linux program for every Windows one. The re is no need to run Windows under WINE or any emulator.

The following is a list of Linux/Windows equivalent programs:
http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html

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Saikat B

@dragonmouth:

Well compiled list. Thanks for that.

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Abdo R.

What I meant by “a couple years back” is LITERALLY 2 years, I tried Ubuntu in late 2010 & always had a problem running the “make” command for the tarballs I downloaded… Also you seem to have skipped the part where I mentioned the crash & the 2 taskbars disappearing, this is really one of the experiences that are holding me back from going for Ubuntu.

Thanks for the list btw, will definitely check it out as I’m going to install Lubuntu on a USB later, hoping my experience with Linux will be better this time…

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dragonmouth

@Saikat:
You’re welcome.
If you notice, the last update on that site is September, 2011. While the list is correct, there are sites with more recent listings but I do not have the URLs.

@Abdo:
There could be many reasons why you had such an unpleasant experience with Ubuntu but I do not think the distro itself was one of them. There are 100-150 other distros you can try that are not Ubuntu-based. I would suggest you try one of them, if only to see if it is Linux or Ubuntu that caused your bad experince.

Lubuntu is Ubuntu with the LXDE desktop environment so I hope you do not experience the same problems, although couple of days ago I installed LXLE (Lubuntu for “older” PCs) and did notice too much of the usual Ubuntu behavior.

I skipped over the crash and the missing taskbars because, in all honesty, I suspect it was something you may have done that caused the problem. All mainstream distros, Ubuntu being one of them, have been stable for 6, 7 years. Of course, if you downloaded a nightly test version, then problems are almost guaranteed.

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dragonmouth

Are you by any chance using WUBI to install Ubuntu? It is possible that it is Wubi that is causing your problems. Here is a quote from WUBI Wiki:

“Wubi does not work on any new PC with the Windows 8 logo or using UEFI firmware.”
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide

If you are using WUBI, please read the Guide I linked to.

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Abdo R.

The reason Ubuntu crashed was that I was multitasking; I opened a dozen tabs in Chrome while in the same time desperately trying to install an app, this is what I regularly did in Windows XP before removing it & installing Ubuntu, only the latter wasn’t tolerant & completely froze so I had to reset my PC…

And no I didn’t use WUBI, I only download the Ubuntu ISO & burned it to CD (back then it fitted on a 700MB CD) then fresh installed it on my machine.

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Scooter

I converted 3 of my old WindowsXP machines to Ubuntu. There is a bit of a learning curve, but if you can get by that its smooth sailing. I may never use Windows again.

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dragonmouth

@penguin:
“is he in any sort of position to make these kinds of decisions? nope.”
If you believe that the majority stock owner, founder and a major ego maniac such as Mr. Gates does not have input into corporate strategy, then I have a nice choice of bridges to sell you.

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dragonmouth

For all those who have use WUBI to install Ubuntu in Windows, and are having problems with Ubuntu, here is a quote from WUBI Wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide :

“Wubi does not work on any new PC with the Windows 8 logo or using UEFI firmware. ”

Read the WUBI Guide to find out how to fix your problems.

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Fer

First of all, I am not a Microsoft lover, I actually hate it for what it did with British video games development team Rare (bought and destroyed it). Now, Windows used to be full of errors. I have suffered that. I started hating computers because of Windows. But Windows 8 is a different story because it is constructed in a different way and it’s easier to keep things simple, and I don’t mean the simple layout but to erase trash from your computer and keep the OS pure. You can even “Refresh” it and similar actions in order to keep things going well and it’s very simple to set your preferences. I love Windows 8, I always use the Desktop “app” when I use my computer because it’s easier for keyboard and mouse control. After Windows 8.1 upgrade, you can make the computer start up in the Desktop style so it looks like a classic Windows right from the start. Regarding tablets and so, I don’t like tablets, I think they are useless in spite of what Steve Jobs said, but I do have a Nokia Lumia with Windows Phone 8 running (Windows Phone 8.1 to be released soon) and I really like it, and the things I’d improve have been added to the Windows Phone 8.1 update, such as easy turning on and off of wireless communications (WiFi, Bluetooth…). I always hated Windows because it was unstable but now I love Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8.1 because they are reliable, simple but not as simple and limited as Mac OS. They work perfectly fine on both my computer and my smartphone. The 8.1 upgrade is essential as it make the OS perfectly suitable for both control methods, keyboard and mouse or touch-style.

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KeithCP2

To be quite honest I never used to bother with updates, until I got computers on service pack 3, and even now I wish I hadn’t because they have caused me more problems than a little, virus scanners, malware bytes and glary utilities protect my computers, and apart from that I still run one computer on service pack 1 of xp, avast antivirus makes sure that is ok so does window washer, that can’t update its on internet explorer 6, somtimes the page works sometimes it don’t firefox 12 won’t work older versions do, and there was another browser I tried a few years ago it worked fine until its last update, then it stopped working,but with having other old machines but newer than that one, still allows me to use other things on the service pack 1 machine, irc works fine for instance

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Sandra

Why should we upgrade to Windows 8.1 when XP Professional is still working great for us. We don’t need octa-core systems with 32Gb of memory and a Petabyte of SSD harddrives.

The internet itself has an effective speed of about 40mbps, no matter what your providers promises you, and a computer wont work faster than the speed it’s user clicks the ‘enter’ button after he or she has given the commands or search terms.

Windows XP on our AMD 3200+ with 2Gb of memory and 160Gb Sata hardrive is more than enough for now. The only upgrade we made to this system is 2 TFT screeens to replace the old CRT one. Maybe we’ll add a second harddrive to store more files, that’s it.

It’s just like someone else said, why buy another car when your current one does what it’s made for. Our first car is 33 years old and the second is 26 years old, both still going strong and ready for every day use.

When you feel the drive to buy everything a.s.a.p., to show off or whatever, go for it. When software is stil useable, or making you feel in control of your computer the way you want it, why should be forced to buy everything new ?.

Software developers should not be concerned about the quantity of their software packages, they should be concerned about the quality of it, just to make the clients happy. As soon as this is a fact these happy clients will become their personal advertisements and returning clients. It’s all about quality, not quantity ;)

Bye for now, Sandra

(a happy XP user in 2014)

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MJ

Good for you! (I’m being sincere)

Furthermore, you already have the specs (well and TRULY) to run any version of windows you want… Sure it’s only one core (but it’s an AMD 3200+, which is no slouch), and sure that’s DDR2 ram you’re running (I’m guessing, but it’s an educated one), but my PC is only AMD 2.6Ghz, 80GB IDE HDD and 1.5 GB DDR2. The only downer is that my RAM is running at 40% all the time. It still works well, and I don’t do anything so intensive that it’s using up the entire lot of my RAM (In fact, I haven’t seen it drop below 300MB yet, and that was admittedly a busy time), so 2GB should be plenty, even if it means 25% of it is being used constantly, it really is being used for an optimised system. Its actually quite fast when I use it, so I suspect that RAM has been earmarked for the systems proprietary use. It’s probably a good thing, as it will lessen the likelihood of lockups due to system resources being raped…

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Gerald McMullon

I first saw the notice on my laptop. It did the usual updates, went to hibernate and never woke up again. Can’t even get the data off the hard drive.

I have been configuring a machine for a local computer museum with NeXTSTEP, Windows 95 and XP. I might add Windows 3.11 and NT. Other than the service packs the thousands of updates taking days of rebooting and downloading may also be withdrawn. If I install XP on new hardware (mostly due to drive failure) I have been having to use online and call back services to get it registered. This also may be withdrawn.

With older software you don’t need to get on line to validate the license key and that is becoming increasingly difficult when old hardware gets incremental changes with hard drive and motherboard failure. Sometimes an upgrade of the software makes good sense, other times what I have is fine – if it still runs and my license key will still work.

I may not need older operating systems or hardware and I don’t ‘need’ update support but for those who like to run old computers and collect them the era of online resignation will leave a gap of machine that could work but wont install the software for more than 30 days at a time.

A paid for Service pack 4 with every update and no further need to bother to validate it along with Office XP updates but this would be seen as reducing new sales – even if priced the same as 32-bit Windows 7 – it would never happen.

I also tried installing Ubuntu but it locked up. On a more modern PC I managed to get Ubuntu installed but had problems with the sound and the software choices for using the TV card where so different to the PC versions and made no sense to me at all. With no help from the manufacturers for most of the hardware and nothing on the internet on how to configure the hardware I had to gave up.

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Mary Klett

I simply don’t like anything else other than XP. The changes are too radical for the way I use my PC. No thought has been given to those who do not want to be burdened with change that only brings annoyance and no significant benefits. I won’t be upgrading; I see no reason to. The new web page designs have just turned me off completely to visiting those pages that have them. What was to be an “improvement in your experience” has been irritating instead. I don’t want to fight it – and fight it and fight is the right word. I use XP because it doesn’t use ME. The new OS’s use me. I’m not averse to change, but this change isn’t good change. It’s simply commercial.

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Saikat B

Mary, the way I look at it, Windows XP is a commercial product, and like any it serves a particular commercial need for the company that makes it. That’s something we XP fans have to got to get used :)

Take a look at my colleague, Christian’s article on < a href="http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/windows-xp-security-risks-theyre-real-heading-way-2014/">Windows XP Security Risks: They’re Real And Heading Your Way In 2014.

He has covered all the issues, including the situation if you don’t want to upgrade. Happy reading!

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