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	<title>Comments on: Convert Old PC To Network Attached Storage with FreeNas</title>
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		<title>By: Ant1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ant1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Energy, I have to say that is top of mind. In Europe electricity prices have been tremendously volatile with a close to 60% increase a year ago in the UK for example. 

That said, it might be conceivable to do something like the following: 
- have down-times i.e. when you sleep and automate a shut-down script
- then - to wake-up in the morning - one could use the BIOS wake-up with an auto-login script
- then it could be put in hibernate with a wake-on-lan. 
- yet another idea is that if this is a laptop a timer could be put on the plug such that the battery charges and discharges effectively halving the electricity usage..
- finally, if it were possible to have FREENAS run as a virtual machine on a machine that is actually doing something of use, it would get rid of the need for a redundant device

Another solution might be to see if change requests could be put to the FREENAS team to develop power-management solutions at software level. 

Just thoughts. I will admit to not being as knowledgeable as many of you on this forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Energy, I have to say that is top of mind. In Europe electricity prices have been tremendously volatile with a close to 60% increase a year ago in the UK for example. </p>
<p>That said, it might be conceivable to do something like the following:<br />
- have down-times i.e. when you sleep and automate a shut-down script<br />
- then &#8211; to wake-up in the morning &#8211; one could use the BIOS wake-up with an auto-login script<br />
- then it could be put in hibernate with a wake-on-lan.<br />
- yet another idea is that if this is a laptop a timer could be put on the plug such that the battery charges and discharges effectively halving the electricity usage..<br />
- finally, if it were possible to have FREENAS run as a virtual machine on a machine that is actually doing something of use, it would get rid of the need for a redundant device</p>
<p>Another solution might be to see if change requests could be put to the FREENAS team to develop power-management solutions at software level. </p>
<p>Just thoughts. I will admit to not being as knowledgeable as many of you on this forum.</p>
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		<title>By: drevil</title>
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		<dc:creator>drevil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use  freenas all the time. I put all my music and non-personal files on it. that way I don&#039;t have to hook up a external harddrive or usb drive to other computers. It is very useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use  freenas all the time. I put all my music and non-personal files on it. that way I don&#8217;t have to hook up a external harddrive or usb drive to other computers. It is very useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Core</title>
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		<dc:creator>Core</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its actually kinda odd that people are talking about power here... considering just about all of you are being cooled off or warmed up by a air condition that takes monstrous amounts of power compared to any computer that sombody has that wants to set up for this use &gt;.&lt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its actually kinda odd that people are talking about power here&#8230; considering just about all of you are being cooled off or warmed up by a air condition that takes monstrous amounts of power compared to any computer that sombody has that wants to set up for this use &gt;.&lt;</p>
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		<title>By: VD</title>
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		<dc:creator>VD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 05:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need old PC for tweaking I would love to go for the old PCs which you have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need old PC for tweaking I would love to go for the old PCs which you have.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Fiedler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Fiedler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 03:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With FreeNAS 0.7 you get ZFS support, which provides a lot of advantages over standard RAID implementations. If you have two or more disks, you can set up a redundant pool of disks so the loss of one does not mean you lose any data. I&#039;ve got four disks set up in a RAID-Z pool myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With FreeNAS 0.7 you get ZFS support, which provides a lot of advantages over standard RAID implementations. If you have two or more disks, you can set up a redundant pool of disks so the loss of one does not mean you lose any data. I&#8217;ve got four disks set up in a RAID-Z pool myself.</p>
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		<title>By: T.J. Mininday</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.J. Mininday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly, as long as you have some type of connection between locations, it&#039;s very possible.  Let me know if you need specific instructions.  Great question!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, as long as you have some type of connection between locations, it&#8217;s very possible.  Let me know if you need specific instructions.  Great question!</p>
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		<title>By: skydvr</title>
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		<dc:creator>skydvr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alberta Hall - I&#039;m not TJ, but...

If the &quot;process monitors&quot; can access your &quot;central office&quot;&#039;s network, then there&#039;s no reason why not.  A NAS box is just storage that hangs off the network.  When you mount it (IE: as a drive letter in Windows), the &quot;process monitors&quot; won&#039;t know that it&#039;s not a local drive.

You use the term &quot;web accessible&quot;, which is different than being able to be mounted as storage, which a NAS is - a NAS doesn&#039;t necessarily run a web server.  The &quot;process monitors&quot; can write a log file as they normally do, but the drive will be located in your central office.  You&#039;d still have individual log files for each, as they&#039;re still each writing their own log file.

The main thing is that if the machines running the &quot;process monitors&quot; can&#039;t access the &quot;central office&quot;&#039;s network, then a NAS won&#039;t help - it&#039;s just a device on the network - no more or less acessible than any other device on that network.

HTH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alberta Hall &#8211; I&#8217;m not TJ, but&#8230;</p>
<p>If the &#8220;process monitors&#8221; can access your &#8220;central office&#8221;&#8216;s network, then there&#8217;s no reason why not.  A NAS box is just storage that hangs off the network.  When you mount it (IE: as a drive letter in Windows), the &#8220;process monitors&#8221; won&#8217;t know that it&#8217;s not a local drive.</p>
<p>You use the term &#8220;web accessible&#8221;, which is different than being able to be mounted as storage, which a NAS is &#8211; a NAS doesn&#8217;t necessarily run a web server.  The &#8220;process monitors&#8221; can write a log file as they normally do, but the drive will be located in your central office.  You&#8217;d still have individual log files for each, as they&#8217;re still each writing their own log file.</p>
<p>The main thing is that if the machines running the &#8220;process monitors&#8221; can&#8217;t access the &#8220;central office&#8221;&#8216;s network, then a NAS won&#8217;t help &#8211; it&#8217;s just a device on the network &#8211; no more or less acessible than any other device on that network.</p>
<p>HTH.</p>
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		<title>By: Alberta Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alberta Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TJ, let me ask this:  Can two process monitors that are in differnt parts of the city write to my central office where I put one of these FreeNAS devices?  Seems to me that, since this NAS device appears to be a web accessible device, I should be able to redirect the log files that now get written on the local hard drives at these two sites and have them show up on my office computer that has the NAS device on it?  Comments anyone?  Can this NAS be used to automatically receive data redirected from remote sites?
Alberta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TJ, let me ask this:  Can two process monitors that are in differnt parts of the city write to my central office where I put one of these FreeNAS devices?  Seems to me that, since this NAS device appears to be a web accessible device, I should be able to redirect the log files that now get written on the local hard drives at these two sites and have them show up on my office computer that has the NAS device on it?  Comments anyone?  Can this NAS be used to automatically receive data redirected from remote sites?<br />
Alberta</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real question is how much extra energy an old pc based NAS uses compared to a standard NAS device.  I&#039;d like to see some kill-a-watt data of a DIY PC based nas with only essential devices turned on compared with a market NAS.  I bet they are not much different and the wake on lan feature would even make the energy consumption even less of an issue.  Anyone care to test and post your results?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question is how much extra energy an old pc based NAS uses compared to a standard NAS device.  I&#8217;d like to see some kill-a-watt data of a DIY PC based nas with only essential devices turned on compared with a market NAS.  I bet they are not much different and the wake on lan feature would even make the energy consumption even less of an issue.  Anyone care to test and post your results?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Earl&#039;s comment was associated with the fact that some hardware must be active (&quot;on&quot;) to receive the signal. Even if you aren&#039;t using it, a plugged in transformer consumes some power. Termed &quot;Vampire&quot; electronics, this wastes 5% of US power annually according to the article at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.switched.com/2007/10/31/five-percent-of-u-s-electricity-wasted-by-vampire-electronics/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.switched.com/2007/10/31/five-percent-of-u-s-electricity-wasted-by-vampire-electronics/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Earl&#8217;s comment was associated with the fact that some hardware must be active (&#8220;on&#8221;) to receive the signal. Even if you aren&#8217;t using it, a plugged in transformer consumes some power. Termed &#8220;Vampire&#8221; electronics, this wastes 5% of US power annually according to the article at <a href="http://www.switched.com/2007/10/31/five-percent-of-u-s-electricity-wasted-by-vampire-electronics/" rel="nofollow">http://www.switched.com/2007/10/31/five-percent-of-u-s-electricity-wasted-by-vampire-electronics/</a></p>
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