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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
		<link>http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/build-yourself-a-virtual-cloud-to-fall-back-on/#comment-349263</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed a lack of media player alternatives on this list. Where&#039;s the Last.fm entry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed a lack of media player alternatives on this list. Where&#8217;s the Last.fm entry?</p>
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		<title>By: Biljana Pesevska</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biljana Pesevska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with Tina. The technology advances with amazing pace! The applications you are mentioning are not yet developed enough, however check on them in about a year from now, I bet that more than half of them will be fully developed with some &quot;crazy&quot; features.
The web 2.0 revolution has just started and that&#039;s why there is no know-how, everyone learns from the mistake they make.
I for example couldn&#039;t imagine my work without Delicious, Gmail, Facebook, ProjectOffice.net, Netvibes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with Tina. The technology advances with amazing pace! The applications you are mentioning are not yet developed enough, however check on them in about a year from now, I bet that more than half of them will be fully developed with some &#8220;crazy&#8221; features.<br />
The web 2.0 revolution has just started and that&#8217;s why there is no know-how, everyone learns from the mistake they make.<br />
I for example couldn&#8217;t imagine my work without Delicious, Gmail, Facebook, ProjectOffice.net, Netvibes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alice McLane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice McLane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tina, 
You could add &quot;MS Project becomes &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wrike.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wrike&lt;/a&gt;&quot;. We recently released Wrike&#039;s enterprise version and introduced some really great features, that make online project management even more efficient than before. The cool part is we even provide an option to painlessly transfer all the data from your MS Project file to Wrike. It will take just about 2 minutes of your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tina,<br />
You could add &#8220;MS Project becomes <a href="http://www.wrike.com" rel="nofollow">Wrike</a>&#8220;. We recently released Wrike&#8217;s enterprise version and introduced some really great features, that make online project management even more efficient than before. The cool part is we even provide an option to painlessly transfer all the data from your MS Project file to Wrike. It will take just about 2 minutes of your time.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ C.M. White
We are in the middle of a digital revolution. 100 years ago almost no one had a phone, thirty years ago almost no one had a mobile phone, twenty-five years ago almost no one had a private computer, fifteen years ago almost no one had internet at home. Look at the world now. Within the past 30 years mobile phones, computers, the internet, and handhelds with internet access have become a matter of course. Technology is making advances exponentially, not gradually. Even third world countries are catching up with a breathtaking speed.
Where do you think are we going to be 10 years from now?

@ Transcontinental
Revolutions are always tough to swallow. In fact, cloud computing already is a reality. Many of the youngest internet users access the internet from many different places - home, friends&#039;, school or library computers. Look at the success of MySpace, Facebook, Twitter, Google, Blogger, etc. etc. etc. This generation routinely uses online networks and online data storage. This is also the generation that is going to shape the future. 
I think it will become increasingly uncomfortable to swim against the mainstream. Of course &quot;old school&quot; computing will not disappear, just like cash payments and postal letters are still in use. So relax, there are many shades of gray.

@ Maximillian
I agree. But do you really think that if they want to read your eMail they are not already doing it? You have to use the internet to send mail and someone else has to use the internet to receive your mail. eMails are passing through servers, very likely servers located in the US, and no matter how well your eMails are encrypted (if you use encryption at all), if someone wants to read it, they will be able to crack the encryption sooner rather than later.
I think it&#039;s naive to believe that you can escape big brother. The only thing you can do to make it tough for big brother to use anything against you, is to remain unpredictable, use proxies, mask your browsing habits if you will or flood him with data, and use old school technology for stuff that is seriously confidential.
On the other hand, I hope that big brother isn&#039;t all that interested in me. After all I&#039;m just one out of roughly 7 billion people. If they delivered tailored ads to my desktop, I couldn&#039;t care less. My taste varies, my preferences develop, and my thoughts are free. :)

@ Joe
I have no problem with Google, I just don&#039;t like the flavor of monopolists and that&#039;s where Google is going. And just how boring would this post have been had I recommended Google for everything, when great alternatives (that - by the way - do allow to export files) are available?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ C.M. White<br />
We are in the middle of a digital revolution. 100 years ago almost no one had a phone, thirty years ago almost no one had a mobile phone, twenty-five years ago almost no one had a private computer, fifteen years ago almost no one had internet at home. Look at the world now. Within the past 30 years mobile phones, computers, the internet, and handhelds with internet access have become a matter of course. Technology is making advances exponentially, not gradually. Even third world countries are catching up with a breathtaking speed.<br />
Where do you think are we going to be 10 years from now?</p>
<p>@ Transcontinental<br />
Revolutions are always tough to swallow. In fact, cloud computing already is a reality. Many of the youngest internet users access the internet from many different places &#8211; home, friends&#8217;, school or library computers. Look at the success of MySpace, Facebook, Twitter, Google, Blogger, etc. etc. etc. This generation routinely uses online networks and online data storage. This is also the generation that is going to shape the future.<br />
I think it will become increasingly uncomfortable to swim against the mainstream. Of course &#8220;old school&#8221; computing will not disappear, just like cash payments and postal letters are still in use. So relax, there are many shades of gray.</p>
<p>@ Maximillian<br />
I agree. But do you really think that if they want to read your eMail they are not already doing it? You have to use the internet to send mail and someone else has to use the internet to receive your mail. eMails are passing through servers, very likely servers located in the US, and no matter how well your eMails are encrypted (if you use encryption at all), if someone wants to read it, they will be able to crack the encryption sooner rather than later.<br />
I think it&#8217;s naive to believe that you can escape big brother. The only thing you can do to make it tough for big brother to use anything against you, is to remain unpredictable, use proxies, mask your browsing habits if you will or flood him with data, and use old school technology for stuff that is seriously confidential.<br />
On the other hand, I hope that big brother isn&#8217;t all that interested in me. After all I&#8217;m just one out of roughly 7 billion people. If they delivered tailored ads to my desktop, I couldn&#8217;t care less. My taste varies, my preferences develop, and my thoughts are free. <img src="http://main.makeuseoflimited.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif?323f2c" alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ Joe<br />
I have no problem with Google, I just don&#8217;t like the flavor of monopolists and that&#8217;s where Google is going. And just how boring would this post have been had I recommended Google for everything, when great alternatives (that &#8211; by the way &#8211; do allow to export files) are available?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 04:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is your problem with putting all your eggs into one basket (ie Google).  For one google, is reliable (for me I&#039;ve never had a problem) and stable.  Putting everything into Google allows for easy cross-filing.  (ie. opening email attachments into google docs).  What can be said of some of these other startups?  I tried using Humyo for some data and I&#039;ve had a number of files become corrupt and undownloadable, while also being completely insecure.  Their PC Client is garbage and unusable.  Who knows where those people will be in 5 years.

I put everything into Google, and run backups, because unlike other providers, Google lets you take your data and export it.  So many cloud services take your data and hold you hostage once you try to get it out.

GigaOM= get real and stop telling us what to do with our internets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is your problem with putting all your eggs into one basket (ie Google).  For one google, is reliable (for me I&#8217;ve never had a problem) and stable.  Putting everything into Google allows for easy cross-filing.  (ie. opening email attachments into google docs).  What can be said of some of these other startups?  I tried using Humyo for some data and I&#8217;ve had a number of files become corrupt and undownloadable, while also being completely insecure.  Their PC Client is garbage and unusable.  Who knows where those people will be in 5 years.</p>
<p>I put everything into Google, and run backups, because unlike other providers, Google lets you take your data and export it.  So many cloud services take your data and hold you hostage once you try to get it out.</p>
<p>GigaOM= get real and stop telling us what to do with our internets.</p>
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		<title>By: Maximillian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maximillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont think I am ready (or ever will be) to trust my personal life, browsing habits, emails or anything that can be used against me to any private or gvernment organization that is subjected to public law. Especially, when it comes to US companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont think I am ready (or ever will be) to trust my personal life, browsing habits, emails or anything that can be used against me to any private or gvernment organization that is subjected to public law. Especially, when it comes to US companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Aibek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aibek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also prefer desktop apps towards the web-based ones, but only when it&#039;s faster and pleasant in design. I guess most of Adobe Air apps fit this description. In case anyone interested check out 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/4-ways-to-run-your-favorite-web-app-from-the-desktop/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;4 Ways to run your Favorite Web App from the Desktop&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also prefer desktop apps towards the web-based ones, but only when it&#8217;s faster and pleasant in design. I guess most of Adobe Air apps fit this description. In case anyone interested check out </p>
<p><a href="http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/4-ways-to-run-your-favorite-web-app-from-the-desktop/" rel="nofollow">4 Ways to run your Favorite Web App from the Desktop</a></p>
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		<title>By: Transcontinental</title>
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		<dc:creator>Transcontinental</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a point which seems strange to me, and that I feel as having been implicitly expressed in this article : the fact that cloud computing is an unavoidable reality of tomorrow&#039;s computing. I&#039;m not saying I wish so, neither that I think it is good or not, but that it is unavoidable.

Three arguments against.

One is that online applications at this time are not as functional, or at least as convenient as their desktop equivalents.  Perhaps. This is only a practical argument.

The second critic is that of reliability. What happens to data when if the Cloud vanishes? Well, backups as it is mentioned here. The idea is backup, wherever be the originals, on the Cloud or on the desktop. Ok!

Last, and that is my feeling more than my truth, the idea of confidentiality. I am myself somewhere between paranoia and lucidity, at least concerning privacy, mine and that of my documents. When Gmail reads my mails to deliver corresponding advertisements,  I ask myself if my paranoia is not lucidity ; when I wonder what may be done of a company&#039;s documents comfortably lying on a Cloud, I do admit wondering if that lucidity is not closer to paranoia. Still, whatever it be, I am not, how to say, confident. But, are my doubts not related to the uncertainty of a new computing dimension yet to fully expand in coming times, where we would not more worry of our documents being looked at than we do nowadays of our phone calls being listened ? No idea. 

To conclude, I wish that whatever arises, it be true progress and not a logical continuation on a wrong path. Not only do I ignore what tomorrow will be, I moreover ignore what it should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a point which seems strange to me, and that I feel as having been implicitly expressed in this article : the fact that cloud computing is an unavoidable reality of tomorrow&#8217;s computing. I&#8217;m not saying I wish so, neither that I think it is good or not, but that it is unavoidable.</p>
<p>Three arguments against.</p>
<p>One is that online applications at this time are not as functional, or at least as convenient as their desktop equivalents.  Perhaps. This is only a practical argument.</p>
<p>The second critic is that of reliability. What happens to data when if the Cloud vanishes? Well, backups as it is mentioned here. The idea is backup, wherever be the originals, on the Cloud or on the desktop. Ok!</p>
<p>Last, and that is my feeling more than my truth, the idea of confidentiality. I am myself somewhere between paranoia and lucidity, at least concerning privacy, mine and that of my documents. When Gmail reads my mails to deliver corresponding advertisements,  I ask myself if my paranoia is not lucidity ; when I wonder what may be done of a company&#8217;s documents comfortably lying on a Cloud, I do admit wondering if that lucidity is not closer to paranoia. Still, whatever it be, I am not, how to say, confident. But, are my doubts not related to the uncertainty of a new computing dimension yet to fully expand in coming times, where we would not more worry of our documents being looked at than we do nowadays of our phone calls being listened ? No idea. </p>
<p>To conclude, I wish that whatever arises, it be true progress and not a logical continuation on a wrong path. Not only do I ignore what tomorrow will be, I moreover ignore what it should be.</p>
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		<title>By: C. M. White</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. M. White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all well and good, but I haven&#039;t seen an online application that offers the convenience and fluidity of a desktop app. Sadly, the best options for Office alternatives seem to be Abiword or StarOffice, both of which are clunky, buggy, and under-developed at best...inoperable at worst. Why is there so much emphasis on web 2.0 apps? As someone who doesn&#039;t always have an internet connection, I don&#039;t see what advantage they really have over offline apps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all well and good, but I haven&#8217;t seen an online application that offers the convenience and fluidity of a desktop app. Sadly, the best options for Office alternatives seem to be Abiword or StarOffice, both of which are clunky, buggy, and under-developed at best&#8230;inoperable at worst. Why is there so much emphasis on web 2.0 apps? As someone who doesn&#8217;t always have an internet connection, I don&#8217;t see what advantage they really have over offline apps.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Gelwicks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Gelwicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have to throw two cents in and suggest Evernote as the alternative for OneNote.  With the ability to import OneNote files, synchronize with the Evernote web site, and provide mobile access, it&#039;s got a complete offering both local and cloud based.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to throw two cents in and suggest Evernote as the alternative for OneNote.  With the ability to import OneNote files, synchronize with the Evernote web site, and provide mobile access, it&#8217;s got a complete offering both local and cloud based.</p>
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