Jacquilyn Walker asks:
Do you know if there’s any programs out there (hopefully for Windows 7) that allow users to add tags and descriptions to files, but then don’t lose them when the file gets moved or renamed? It would need to be for ALL file types.
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Hello Jacquilyn Walker,
I found this software called TagFolder. why don’t you give it a try… here is the Video link and the Link to the TagFolder website
Video Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12wOOSxSob8
Website Link
http://virtual-protect.com/tagfolder.aspx
Download Link
http://virtual-protect.com/myfolder.aspx
ALSO
check out this software too..
Here is the link and the name of the software is “Folder Tag”..
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Miscellaneous/Folder-Tag.shtml
Hope it helped
Your stranger,
Kayantihsrah
That appears to allow users to add tags to folders. I need to add tags to files, and I need to also add descriptions to my files. Thank you for trying, but that doesn’t seem to be what I need.
Hello, Have you tried tag2find? It is pretty much automated once database is built.
http://www.techishare.com/softwares/search-and-find-your-files-easily-with-tag2find/
There is also Taggedfrog:
http://lunarfrog.com/
or, DiviFile:
http://www.qnomad.com/divifile/
If you want to use tools included with windows 7, take a look af following link:
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/window-on-windows/tag-your-files-for-easier-searches-in-windows-7/4024
I’m pretty sure I have tried half of those. They only allow tagging, and the last suggestion is only a for a few file types. I needs tags and descriptions as 2 separate features for all file types.
Hello, I found this projects named Reggata. It can do both, tags and notes. If you are interested, here is the link:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/reggata/
Sorry but I can’t try that from my work computer because McAfee blocks the download. It claims there’s a virus, and while that doesn’t mean there is one, that does mean McAfee will probably block installing the program as well, so that won’t work.
The URL Fidelis posted no longer leads to the actual project, at least not for me. Seems like Sourceforge has discontinued it.
Hi Tina, I just tried clicking on link and it takes me to regata project.
Well, the link does work again now.
Hello, I downloaded and installed this software before recommending it. I use bitdefender Internet Security and it does not report anything untoward with file/program. Kaspersky does not report any wrong with it either. It is a zip file. I also checked it with virus total and it comes up clean. Here is the link for virus total results for .exe file:
https://www.virustotal.com/file/3c2f5a0e24e5f60bf1f140a873ec29e316b74696501a59120bf20212a1dba402/analysis/1329432538/
Here is the link for URL project link with virus total:
https://www.virustotal.com/url/ac70220b8e25bf0bd78b4af993bd3752e385dcec56c9cacb0a113d643b52bb4e/analysis/1329432744/
Anyway, you are right about mcafee probably blocking the installation too. if the antivirus at your work tells you there is something funny with it, do not run it. Better be safe than sorryl.
I’ve had McAfee eat files it though were viruses that I had used on many installs of windows without any problems (since my normal security thought they were fine). But it’s the laptop work gave me (and does all support for), so I don’t get any say in what security it uses.
Tabbles Free version to start
http://tabbles.net/fr/document-management-file-tagging/tabbles-different-licenses.html
tabbles only has tags. I need more than just tags.
tabbles only has tags. I need more than just tags.
if you cantact Tabbles explaining what you are looking for may be they can guide you.
you can try other Explorer like directory opus
http://blog.dopus.com/2009/04/how-to-add-commentsdescriptions-to.html
http://www.gpsoft.com.au/help/opus9/default.htm?turl=WordDocuments%2Ffiletypeeditor.htm
I have.
DO seems to just allow descriptions, and no other custom metadata. Unfortunately, I need more than only descriptions for custom metadata.
you need a system that stores the extra meta data in a file along-side your files ( stores it’s .ini files along with your files).
Alternate Data Streams
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/105763
I’ve heard of them, but I don’t really understand them. If they work on windows 7 then I’m getting something mixed up.
Honestly I’m thinking about just learning access so I can just build what I want, since it doesn’t seem to be out there for downloading/buying.
The only tools I’m seeing for Alternate Data Streams are for hiding one file in one other file, not for handling many files and columns at once.
quite right
http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=security/altds
perhaps then to ask a developer to arrange a tool that matches your requirements. It is difficult to find a soft that gathers all of these.
Yeah, I’ve been looking and not finding anything. I don’t really know that many programmers, and most aren’t looking to just code things for people, so I don’t know if that’s an option for me, but that’s pretty much where this may have come to. Thank you for trying.
As for not losing tags and descriptions it depends on how and where you move your files.
For example metadata e.g. ID3-Tags are stored within the file and are carried over wherever you move/copy them.
Certain descriptions and stuff you can add on Windows are stored within NTFS data streams. Once you move them to an alternate file system e.g. FAT32 on your USB drive or EXT3/4 on your NAS they are lost.
If you were using a tool like Adobe Bridge or another media manager to add descriptions, tags etc. they are stored in a database. You would have to move/copy the database along your files to the other system [and obviously use the same tool to retrieve them].
Personally I would rather develop some intelligent folder structure to sort your files into. It’s may be cumbersome in the beginning but you can carry it over be it another Windows machine, Linux, Mac or your media player connected to your TV.
It would only have to stay within that install of windows on NTFS drives. Though I thought alt streams didn’t work on win7, but I could be wrong.
Honestly I’d really love to set custom columns, like SharePoint, but that seems impossible. Tagging and adding descriptions covers most of what I need. Media managers I’ve seen only do certain file types, I need all file types.
Personally, after years and years of trying to do so, I’ve given up on that pointless endeavor. I use my folders to sort out bills, personal, etc. then by class, project, etc., but that’s not enough. The file’s importance, methods of back up, origins, etc. are lost once I forget them, and I can’t add a sentence or two about file specific details. How is this one different from other 10 versions of this digital painting I created? What wasn’t working in my code that caused me to back it up? Or what was I about to change that was risky? Sorting into folders by importance makes files impossible to find and breaks links to other files (php, css, indesign, etc.) And that’s just on my personal computer, my work computer is quickly starting to have the same problem. It has a database I update manually, but it’s becoming too time consuming.
The average computer user can probably sort everything into folders and remember all this information about all their photo’s, word doc’s, and movies, but I deal with many more files and many more file types. I can’t use mac or linux, and my media player for the tv is netlfix on my boyfriend’s xbox so there’s no need to carry over.
Looking at the complexity of your needs I would rather suggest a Digital Asset Management (DAM) system than some desktop tagging and description tool.
However those systems often come at a prize and usually require a server setup.
Personally I have only “worked [a few minutes] with Cumulus which is targeted at small business groups.
But I found Razuna Desktop via Google which may be of your interest.
Yeah, I think SharePoint counts as one of those. The company I work at has it, though it’s a little clunky and there isn’t a place for me to keep my personal files on it.
Yeah, I’ve noticed that, they tend to be pricey because they’re above and beyond what I need (I don’t need version control and I don’t need to share my files). The problem is the closest thing I have to a server is IIS on my desktop, and I’m pretty clueless when it comes to servers. Not mention my desktop slows down and lags badly when it’s being a desktop and server at the same time. I don’t want to put my files in there, then they’d be tied to that windows install and on the same hard drive. I have multiple hard drives so I don’t have to keep my data on my windows drive.
Razuna Desktop still requires having a server somewhere to hold the files. I don’t need them held elsewhere, and like I said, I’m pretty clueless about servers. That’s why I was looking for tags and descriptions. The two features might be a slimmed down version of what I really need, but it’s more practical than buying a server to hold all my files when my desktop already holds them. And I don’t know anything about server security, but I know hackers will try to get in. Thought I do know how to keep my files safe in win7.
Why dont you just farkin name the files differently within a folder!
Because then the file names would exceed the length of a file path/name that windows allows in some cases, I still wouldn’t be able to find anything, and there are a small number of cases where renaming them isn’t any option. File names aren’t mean to be paragraphs / sentences or else they’d be called file descriptions.
I would love to find the same type of thing. I don’t know if you do much with photos but what I want is a file system similar to Windows Live Photo Gallery. I could add tags and descriptions to files and also see all the folders and the files within the folders, all at one time. I don’t know why they couldn’t do the same thing for data files.
Windows doesn’t support it because the files don’t let it embed the metadata inside the files, and so you lose it when copying/moving the files, but like windows has never done anything with downsides to it. As far as I’ve found, win7 doesn’t support it at all and there seems to be nothing out there to do this on a local client machine. It’s basically come down to coding something myself, paying someone to code it, or paying hundreds of dollars to do this on a server.
Know any programmers?
Thank you fro trying, but I have way more than just image files to organize. It seems to only has tags. It doesn’t say anything about adding descriptions to files.
Hello Jacquilyn!
As a user of Taggedfrog I was aware what was going to be a kind of “Taggedfrog 2.0″:
http://fileversum.com/
Maybe you should try the beta test program.
Please keep in touch telling if Fileversum is what you have been searching for!