Can I merge fonts on my Nokia C7 phone?

Meena Bassem January 28, 2013
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I have a font zoomer app on my Nokia C7 and I want to use custom fonts. I have tried some that were great, but I found a problem – most only support English. Anything written in Arabic is messed up. Now the font Ariel does support Arabic, but I don’t want to use that for English. Is there away to merge two fonts, Ariel and another, so that Ariel is used for Arabic and the other font is used for English? I tried Font Forge but it didn’t work.

  1. susendeep dutta
    January 28, 2013 at 3:28 pm
    • Meena Bassem
      January 29, 2013 at 9:36 pm

      it's not supported for C7

  2. Meena Bassem
    January 28, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    there is no problem with the phone, it works fine,i just want to use a custom font,it's cool for english but it doesn't seem to have arabic characters in it and they appear all just like spaces. i was wandering if i can add arabic characters to that font from another font file.any suggestions?

    • ha14
      January 29, 2013 at 4:31 pm

      some discussion here can point to some solutions
      http://www.dafont.com/forum/read/8989/help

      How to combine characters to make a unique word
      http://forum.high-logic.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3473

      • Meena Bassem
        January 29, 2013 at 10:06 pm

        Thanks buddy, the first link seems quite the same as my problem.i'll see if helps.

        • ha14
          January 31, 2013 at 9:57 am

          i think the problem is that , merging always overwrites Unicode values in the glyphs in the target font with those from the source font Glyphs are copyrighted matter - you cannot simply choose any font and rip off its glyphs this can explain some problems.

          also perhaps both fonts do not belong to the same family so what you want to do will be difficult unless you master Font creation field. Use a font with all needed characters rather trying to merge/combine.

          regarding Fontlab they have a forum, ask there hope they will reply with best solution.

          check the manual in their site also check FontLab Studio 5
          http://forum.fontlab.com/index.php?topic=7276.0

        • Meena Bassem
          January 31, 2013 at 10:43 am

          i'm quite good with computers but i almost know nothing about fonts stuff.so i guess font creating won't be easy unless i find a good tutorial.and.......... what about using a font like times new roman, and copy characters from my fonts to replace the ones in times new roman.what about that copyrighted matter? i don't really get it.
          btw,i tried to register in fontlab forum,still awaiting approval

        • ha14
          January 31, 2013 at 11:46 am

          Times New Roman - Version 5.01
          http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/font.aspx?FMID=1653

          Times New Roman - Arabic
          http://www.ascendercorp.com/font/times-new-roman-arabic/

          Arabic Supplement characters supported by the Times New Roman font
          http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/font/times_new_roman/blockview.htm?block=arabic_supplement

          Arabic OpenType fonts
          http://www.smi.uib.no/ksv/ArabicFonts.html

          read this
          http://lists.arabeyes.org/archives/developer/2003/May/msg00015.html

          Better to use a single typographic family and vary its weight and size for display type. Some fonts combine several weight and style modifications, if you merge fonts together you have to pay attention to weight and style, some families have more variations. Making a new font is not something can be found on the net as exact science tutorial. You have to be patient and follow suggestions on the forum. The Time New Roman that comes with Windows with Windows is Unicode and capable to display English and Arabic why not to try it to convert it for your Mobile?

        • Meena Bassem
          January 31, 2013 at 2:33 pm

          and FINALLY. I DID IT
          thanks alot ha14
          i don't know exactly how i did it and not sure if i can do it again. i downloaded tahoma from
          http://www.kobayat.org/data/documents/fonts/index.htm
          and edited it.and messed around alot with font lab and i finally got this one
          http://www.mediafire.com/?9bzdmvz33maevi6
          just what i wanted to do along time ago
          thanks alot buddy :)

        • ha14
          January 31, 2013 at 6:24 pm

          congrats your hard work finally rewarded:), maybe you want to open a thread in nokia or symbian forum and present your font work, many will thank you and will give you opportunity how the font will behave on their phones.

        • Meena Bassem
          January 31, 2013 at 9:59 pm

          Thanks alot ha14,i've been trying to do that for almost 2 days. wouldn't have done it without you :)

      • Meena Bassem
        January 29, 2013 at 11:03 pm

        well, still can't find a way to combine two fonts together. any other suggestions?

        • ha14
          January 30, 2013 at 11:54 am
        • Meena Bassem
          January 30, 2013 at 12:43 pm

          i'll download the software and see if i can get it to work.
          btw,what is the second link for?i already have arabic language in the dictionary, i just want to modify the font file,nothing wrong with the phone.

        • Meena Bassem
          January 30, 2013 at 2:22 pm

          :( unfortunately, that software doesn't seem to do much
          only show the fonts. not edit them. not edit the file

        • ha14
          January 30, 2013 at 3:42 pm

          FontForge
          http://fontforge.org/
          http://fontforge.org/elementmenu.html#Merge

          go to element and choose Merge Fonts
          do File -> Generate Fonts and export your font to a location

          Fontographer
          http://www.fontlab.com/font-editor/fontographer/

        • Meena Bassem
          January 30, 2013 at 7:27 pm

          it's getting really annoying.. fontforge seemed to work at first,but as soon as i try to paste characters,font forge crashes and exits.it happened many time.fontlab seemed to work without crashing.still doesn't get the fonts correctly,i copy the characters from a font, and paste them into another one, generate font, try it. still quite the same.or even the font is just corrupter. is there any other ideas or suggestions, or maybe tutorials on how to do that in fontlab?

        • Meena Bassem
          January 30, 2013 at 7:43 pm

          i use a font called Cascade for english characters
          http://www.fontspace.com/danny-amor/cascade

          but doesn't have arabic characters and i want to mix it with a font called AGA Battouta Regular

          http://www.azfonts.net/load_font/aga_battouta_regular.html

          Which is good in arabic but has no english characters
          http://www.fontyukle.net/en/AGA+Battouta+Regular.ttf

          so what i'm trying to do is to add english letters from Cascade to AGA Battouta because arabic letters are a little bit complex to transfer. so any ideas on how to do that? or how to use the fontlab software? any tutorials?

        • ha14
          January 30, 2013 at 9:45 pm

          creating a new font is not easy!

          •Load up the fonts which aren't falling into the same group with FontForge (•Element > Font Info:)perhaps to give the same name for the two fonts like EnglArab, then file-Generate Font

          Merge Fonts...
          http://fontforge.org/elementmenu.html#Merge

          how to combine asian font and western font as one combined font
          http://superuser.com/questions/453480/how-to-combine-asian-font-and-western-font-as-one-combined-font
          read the last answer

          fontlab
          http://forum.fontlab.com/index.php?topic=8691.0
          use Paste Special and select the option to ignore destination selection, map glyphs by name. This allows you to import a large number of glyphs from another font in non-matching order without overwriting Unicode values in the destination font.

        • Meena Bassem
          January 30, 2013 at 11:37 pm

          still not working quite fine.i use that software called the font thing
          http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/Font-Utils/The-Font-Thing.shtml

          to check if the fonts are done correctly.FontForge does nothing better than crashing, font lab is quite ok but i think i don't really know how to use it correctly.where can i find a quick tutorial about how to use it to just do that thing?,maybe a tutorial or how to do it in 1-2-3 like
          i know i started to be annoying but i really want to do this
          and thanks alot ha14.for your help.

        • Meena Bassem
          January 30, 2013 at 11:37 pm

          still not working quite fine.i use that software called the font thing
          http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/Font-Utils/The-Font-Thing.shtml

          to check if the fonts are done correctly.FontForge does nothing better than crashing, font lab is quite ok but i think i don't really know how to use it correctly.where can i find a quick tutorial about how to use it to just do that thing?,maybe a tutorial or how to do it in 1-2-3 like
          i know i started to be annoying but i really want to do this
          and thanks alot ha14.for your help.

  3. ha14
    January 28, 2013 at 10:48 am

    take your phone to Nokia Care Point and ask them to install a language pack that includes Arabic language. Your phone was not for arabic countries so perhaps they will ask you to pay and not covered with warranty. Be aware updating the firmware will probably make the phone revert to its original language set, you will lose Arabic language and you will have to re-install the font.

  4. Switchblade Rebirth
    January 28, 2013 at 9:25 am

    Not possible. You'd better find another font that you will like in both English and Arabic.

  5. Réy Aétar
    January 28, 2013 at 7:26 am

    no u cant only one font at a time

  6. Anay Chaubal
    January 28, 2013 at 3:37 am

    Why not use a phone with native support for both languages? It is a known fact that using custom fonts, will mess up your phone. Not immediately, but in the near future, you will have to do a factory restore. My advice is to switch to a phone with native support for both languages, as well as the ability to use large on screen fonts. many 2nd tier phone makers have an android based accessibility enabled device or something along these lines.

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